I need help fast

Does Updosing cause kindling too? I just took 2mg instead of my tapered 1.75 or whatever. I'm at the end Idk what to do it probably won't help and my liver is bad anyway.... I'm at squareone again I'm at 40mg methadone and planning on going back up to 6mg ativan. And I in complete hell there is no way out of this because the only way out is through and I can't get through. Idk what to do somebody please help me.... I'm not stable. My tolerance withdrawal is worse than most people's ct withdrawal. How can I find hope

 

Someone please help me there is absolutely no way I can push through this I really am at the end I can't take another minute of it I'm telling you the psychosis and delusions and twisted obsessed fears and akathisia are too much. I managed  to taper .5 mg in a month and things just got so bad they were horrible crushing before I even started tapering so Pleeeeeaaaase

Someone please tell me what to do don't say talk to my doctor my doctor doesn't know I can't stand the akathisia anymore I can't get stable...

 

HELPXXX

 

 

 

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If I was in your shoes I would go for broke and go all in.

Stay at 6mgs Ativan, Stay at 40mgs Methadone and cold turkey Gabapentin.

It is the root of the problem for you, even when you made it six months benzo free

you were plagued by Gaba side effects. You need to stay on your other two meds and ditch Gaba.

If you could find someplace that would let you do that it could get you fixed up.

 

Knowing the problems Gaba caused I would focus on getting away from that and stabilizing

on Ativan and Methadone. The Gaba is the root of your misery. For you its a bad med.

It could be. Slow... It could also have nothing to do with any of this. I'm so unstable and messed up I don't think I could cold turkey anything. I really wish I knew for certain that it's the gabapentin I've always had my beliefs. I would need to updose greatly on the benzo to get off the gabapentin.

 

I've thought about taking valium while I taper off ativan but my doctor won't do that my doctor knows nothing about any of this. I am realizing that the ativan is not going to work.

 

Gabapentin is not tapering friendly either. Man.....I've got full blown akathisia. It's bad it's not in my limbs it's coming from my soul Idk how to explain it but it's unlivable I want to do a crossover butt I'm not stable at all I mean full blown acute ct waves symptoms just from my tolerance. This is jacked up I'm trying to see a specialist one of the benzowise doctors but it's taking too long. If I could ramp up the benzo then I could ct the gabapentin but I don't know a doctor that will do that. I supposed back to 6 but it's not going to help any..

 

How long does it take an updose to take affect..

It could be. Slow... It could also have nothing to do with any of this. I'm so unstable and messed up I don't think I could cold turkey anything. I really wish I knew for certain that it's the gabapentin I've always had my beliefs. I would need to updose greatly on the benzo to get off the gabapentin.

 

I've thought about taking valium while I taper off ativan but my doctor won't do that my doctor knows nothing about any of this. I am realizing that the ativan is not going to work.

 

Gabapentin is not tapering friendly either. Man.....I've got full blown akathisia. It's bad it's not in my limbs it's coming from my soul Idk how to explain it but it's unlivable I want to do a crossover butt I'm not stable at all I mean full blown acute ct waves symptoms just from my tolerance. This is jacked up I'm trying to see a specialist one of the benzowise doctors but it's taking too long. If I could ramp up the benzo then I could ct the gabapentin but I don't know a doctor that will do that. I supposed back to 6 but it's not going to help any..

 

How long does it take an updose to take affect..

Hiphop,

 

It's just an idea, perhaps a bad one. Perhaps taking something for akathisia would be a good idea ?

 

Like Cogentin, or Artane ? That might work. Just an idea.

 

If I was in your shoes I would go for broke and go all in.

Stay at 6mgs Ativan, Stay at 40mgs Methadone and cold turkey Gabapentin.

It is the root of the problem for you, even when you made it six months benzo free

you were plagued by Gaba side effects. You need to stay on your other two meds and ditch Gaba.

If you could find someplace that would let you do that it could get you fixed up.

 

Knowing the problems Gaba caused I would focus on getting away from that and stabilizing

on Ativan and Methadone. The Gaba is the root of your misery. For you its a bad med.

 

Hello,

    You should be careful about dishing out medical advice unless you are a Doctor, Nurse Practitioner etc. You do not know for a fact that gabapentin is the "root of his problem" or "the root of his misery" or that it's a bad medication for him. You are giving your "opinion". When someone is asking to be told what to do, a person needs to be extremely careful about what is said.    rdb

 

If I was in your shoes I would go for broke and go all in.

Stay at 6mgs Ativan, Stay at 40mgs Methadone and cold turkey Gabapentin.

It is the root of the problem for you, even when you made it six months benzo free

you were plagued by Gaba side effects. You need to stay on your other two meds and ditch Gaba.

If you could find someplace that would let you do that it could get you fixed up.

 

Knowing the problems Gaba caused I would focus on getting away from that and stabilizing

on Ativan and Methadone. The Gaba is the root of your misery. For you its a bad med.

 

 

Hi Slow,  I know you mean well, and you are giving Hip support but your statements here fall outside the forum guidelines for prescriptive writing. 

 

•Please adopt a non-prescriptive writing style. Relating your experiences, stating options, or posting suggestions of what other members might do, are all welcome. However, advising members of what they should or must do is against the ethos of the BenzoBuddies Community. Nor should you attempt to 'diagnose' medical problems or suggest medical treatments for other members. This policy also applies to members with medical qualifications. A more detailed explanation of this policy can be found in our Guidelines Regarding the Giving of Medical Advice document.

 

Guidelines Regarding the Giving of Medical Advice

 

Magrita

 

 

Slow was giving advice on something we had previously talked about I was looking for theories suggests to bring up to my doctor no harm no foul

 

That said my don't wants to start me on valium or another long acting benzo to cover my tolerance withdrawal from 6mg ativan is this an ok idea. With the plan of possibly crossing over cuz I cannot taper the ativan

 

If I was in your shoes I would go for broke and go all in.

Stay at 6mgs Ativan, Stay at 40mgs Methadone and cold turkey Gabapentin.

It is the root of the problem for you, even when you made it six months benzo free

you were plagued by Gaba side effects. You need to stay on your other two meds and ditch Gaba.

If you could find someplace that would let you do that it could get you fixed up.

 

Knowing the problems Gaba caused I would focus on getting away from that and stabilizing

on Ativan and Methadone. The Gaba is the root of your misery. For you its a bad med.

 

 

Hi Slow,  I know you mean well, and you are giving Hip support but your statements here fall outside the forum guidelines for prescriptive writing. 

 

•Please adopt a non-prescriptive writing style. Relating your experiences, stating options, or posting suggestions of what other members might do, are all welcome. However, advising members of what they should or must do is against the ethos of the BenzoBuddies Community. Nor should you attempt to 'diagnose' medical problems or suggest medical treatments for other members. This policy also applies to members with medical qualifications. A more detailed explanation of this policy can be found in our Guidelines Regarding the Giving of Medical Advice document.

 

Guidelines Regarding the Giving of Medical Advice

 

Magrita

 

Thank you for the reminder.

I've been struggling lately with a very long wave.

It could be. Slow... It could also have nothing to do with any of this. I'm so unstable and messed up I don't think I could cold turkey anything. I really wish I knew for certain that it's the gabapentin I've always had my beliefs. I would need to updose greatly on the benzo to get off the gabapentin.

 

I've thought about taking valium while I taper off ativan but my doctor won't do that my doctor knows nothing about any of this. I am realizing that the ativan is not going to work.

 

Gabapentin is not tapering friendly either. Man.....I've got full blown akathisia. It's bad it's not in my limbs it's coming from my soul Idk how to explain it but it's unlivable I want to do a crossover butt I'm not stable at all I mean full blown acute ct waves symptoms just from my tolerance. This is jacked up I'm trying to see a specialist one of the benzowise doctors but it's taking too long. If I could ramp up the benzo then I could ct the gabapentin but I don't know a doctor that will do that. I supposed back to 6 but it's not going to help any..

 

How long does it take an updose to take affect..

 

My akathasia still comes and goes, it is a freaky symptom.

Slow was giving advice on something we had previously talked about I was looking for theories suggests to bring up to my doctor no harm no foul

 

That said my don't wants to start me on valium or another long acting benzo to cover my tolerance withdrawal from 6mg ativan is this an ok idea. With the plan of possibly crossing over cuz I cannot taper the ativan

 

When you went to the dentist adding valium worked with your body systems and was therapuetic so a

crossover might be a workable strategy. Plus it is your doctors idea. I hate Ativan Hip, it is a strange drug

that messes with peoples brains in very weird ways.

My doctor tries adding 4 mg of  valium and I had a complete paradoxical reaction. I'm thinking of another detox... Idk. Ativan isn't showing up in my urine and it makes me think that I'm not metabolize it other something. My liver is bad and don't think it can take valium I don't know what to do there's is no way for me to get stable or taper but my psychotic symptoms are getting worse and worse and the depression and I still have episodes where it breaks but they are getting shorter. Think the methadone is messing me up and gabapentin but I can't taper anything without losing it but staying the same is making me worse too. Gabapentin see Dr shipko next week benzo and antidepressant specialist he's on the list but I don't know if he can help me. This would be a lot easier if my parents would take me in but nope ganna be homeless in w months.

 

Need to get a liver metabolites test done to find out what meds I can metabolize normal

I think it would be smart to try another with a longer half life first or even trying to stack them as you doctor suggested. I know your liver is a concern, and valium didn't seem to work, but maybe look into kpins or librium? Ativan is shit, plus your history was mostly K-pin, most people graduate from ativan to kpin as it seems to be more potent, maybe just due to its halflife, they all work a little different and maybe your suffering needs a different drug (just a thought)

 

Try anything to get somewhat stable so you can taper before doing something like CTing AGAIN. Also, I think Slows advice is solid, no matter how you ditch it, lose the gaba, so when you do get off, or do stabilize, there are no more guesses. You can always add it back later if need be. If you can't stabilize, maybe consider a rapid detox, if you are suffering so badly may as well be in the right direction, thats what I figured.

 

When I had my failed reinstatement and was suffering so horribly I did not believe I could last a second off the drugs....Every single day has been the most excruciating hell and I think of killing myself or downing a bottle of pills daily, but somehow here I am with 5 months. If you think your suffering is unique, check this post I just wrote that can only BEGIN to describe the daily suffering I go through, its long, but illustrates as best as I can just how bad it is every single day of this pathetic fucked up experience. Hang in there bro, I been checkin on you.

 

http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=139513.msg1871386#msg1871386

Maybe try to get your living situation figured out first would be most important. It's bad enough having to taper off from high doses, let alone worry whether you'll have a roof over your head. Can you beg and plead with your parents to take you in? Do they know about benzo withdrawal at all?

I wouldnt cold turkey gabapentin. Sounds dangerous! Where do you live. It sounds like you have the world on your shoulders now but you will get through this!

I just don't understand what is happening I have these waves of psychotic nervous breakdown depression that I have never heard anyone else on here describe I literally lose my mind and become a baby and can't take care of myself but when it lifts I feel ok. I can't describe the mental and emotional agony and torment. I feel like I'm being crucified. And every time it happens it will never end and feel like my soul is trying to escape my body. I think it's something form of akathisia or something but it needs to stop

When I CT'd Gabapentin and Ativan my akathisia was horrible.  It left at 8.5 months out.  I pray for you Hiphop. You and Crazy Pants are suffering terribly.  Love, Sofa

Thanks for that....great name lol