Author Topic: Why is titration tapering better?  (Read 1589 times)

[Buddie]

Re: Why is titration tapering better?
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2019, 10:53:11 pm »
Actually, I will go further. It appears to me that most of the information on the chart is wrong regarding how much alcohol to use to mix with the benzo as well as how much water to add.

As I wrote, typically, you want to use 2 ml of alcohol for each mg of the benzo.  You then want to add 8 ml of water for each ml of the benzo to give you a solution where 1 ml of the solution is equal to .1 mg of the benzo. 

Some people may even want to dilute it more--for example after using 2 ml of alcohol to dilute each mg of the benzo, then add 18ml of water to the mix.  This will give you a mix where each ml of the mix is equal to .05 mg of the benzo.  A reason for this would be if you want a mix where the alcohol is more diluted.

I think you may be confused confused user. My calculations are accurate and coincide with the graph. First off the "benzo solubility in alcohol - water graph" was researched and created by a highly respected member of our community, SG57. This is the original post. You will also find the references used to create the graph in the link.

Secondly, the chart I made was created with the hope of making it easier for folks who want to taper using liquid to choose and utilize a method that they are comfortable with. All of the options listed in the chart have been discussed and promoted in the titration board. The particular chart I posted refers specifically to Valium. While I have created charts specific to each benzo, I only posted the Valium reference because that is what the original poster is tapering from. If you took the time to analyze the information you may better understand the chart. btw, the lesser amount of alcohol may be advantageous for those who are sensitive to alcohol and do not want to ingest anymore than absolutely necessary.
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[Buddie]

Re: Why is titration tapering better?
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2019, 01:04:11 am »
I think you may be confused confused user. My calculations are accurate and coincide with the graph. First off the "benzo solubility in alcohol - water graph" was researched and created by a highly respected member of our community, SG57. This is the original post. You will also find the references used to create the graph in the link.

Secondly, the chart I made was created with the hope of making it easier for folks who want to taper using liquid to choose and utilize a method that they are comfortable with. All of the options listed in the chart have been discussed and promoted in the titration board. The particular chart I posted refers specifically to Valium. While I have created charts specific to each benzo, I only posted the Valium reference because that is what the original poster is tapering from. If you took the time to analyze the information you may better understand the chart. btw, the lesser amount of alcohol may be advantageous for those who are sensitive to alcohol and do not want to ingest anymore than absolutely necessary.

I could very well be confused.  If so I apologize to you and everyone else.

Everything that I encountered stated that you needed to use 2 ml of 80 proof alcohol for each 1 mg of benzo pill.   In your chart you have people using 1 ml of 80 proof alcohol for every 2 ml of valium in pill form.

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[Buddie]

Re: Why is titration tapering better?
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2019, 02:37:14 am »
I would rather be safe than sorry by using 1mg of benzo to 2cc of solvent. I want to make darn sure that my klonopin is dissolved properly. If the proposed method works then that is great, but I am sticking to what I have been doing.
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[Buddie]

Re: Why is titration tapering better?
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2019, 08:42:38 pm »
Hi.

Just posting some general informational links. We are putting together a more practical aid to titration. But, for now, we just wish to provide some balance and some cautionary words. None of these links are particular to thread, but some of it will certainly apply:

Titration: FAQs (This is a work in progress)

Titration: Limits & Limitations (This document is to highlight and acknowledge the potential shortcoming with titration methods, which are often not mentioned)

A Short Overview of the Three Supported Methods of Benzodiazepine Withdrawal (old information, but mostly still good)
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