Re: The daily micro taper Worked [Split Topic]

[[Buddie]]

Hi [...],
Good to learn you are done tapering and feeling well.  I was just reading over my messages and I was remembering how you were in such a bad place and so I mentioned getting help from Jana Hill.  Jana has been such a goddess-send to me and so many others.  I like to give her a shout out whenever [...] for the work she has done for you and for me and so many others.  Also thank goodness for Jana's Benzo Micro Taper (BMT) she developed and documented and patented.  It has impacted so many lives over the years by make tapering a Benzo not only manageable but a healing process...IF (and a BIG IF)  done correctly.

Anyway glad you are back to life and the benzo ordeal is in the past.

All my best,
Mimi

edit: name change request

[[Buddie]]

[...]

Yes Jana helped me a great deal.  I never mentioned her because she told me not to post anything about her on here so I honored her wishes.  Her method was KEY to getting off undamaged.

It feels like a lifetime ago you helped get me in contact with her and told me your own healing story.  Thank you

[[Buddie]]

Sorry for the name!  I was re-reading my emails to you and was in that zone!  I want to set the record straight (again) and clarify your comment of Jana not wanting to be mentioned.  I think Jana wants people to acknowledge the benefits of Benzo Micro Taper (BMT)  and give credit without sharing the details BECAUSE.....

Jana's does not want people using the BMT method to post specifics about their own particular tapering schedule.  This is because every person has a unique biology and history!  History includes the specific benzo, other medications, gender, what we eat and many other details.

People reading someone else's tapering details (using the term micro) will give it a try and because they are not you they end up failing.  And we all know how horrible it feels to fail when tapering.  And the truly tragic ending is that people think the BMT does not work and lose an opportunity to use a method that seems to promote healing and avoid post taper symptoms.   I have personally witnessed dozens of people turn their tapers around once they identify their particular situation and move forward prudently. 

Water titration is not technically a Micro Taper. You can take huge cuts with titration.  And a micro taper is not a Benzo Micro Taper (BMT) in the same regard (and other specifics as well).  I always refer the BMT technique as the Ferrari of tapers.  Alot of focus on the details, a few bells and whistles but a smooth ride!!  haha

Jana has a book is the works and hopefully a site for people to learn the process in detail.

We all know there are many ways to taper and some seem to work for some people.  There is no competition but people should be aware of their choices and move forward with confidence and knowledge.

All my best,
Mimi

[[Buddie]]

Right I but never called it The Benzo Microtaper.  I simply shared what I DID and what worked FOR ME.  I’m just trying to give hope to those who are still stuck.  I explained how I made my cuts in my taper to show how slow I needed to go. 

The main goal of my post is to show people there is a way off.  I’m a little confused if I said something wrong. There is an actual thread on here called the daily micro taper that has thousands of posts that I refer people to go to and do their own research. 

[[Buddie]]

I would like to add Jana's taper plan worked.  I followed all her advice.  I was able to find her patent through google but its hard for someone in withdrawal to read and understand it.  I was also taught by someone who followed her taper and got off well.  She helped guide me and was there for me on the nights I thought I wasn't going to make it.  I also followed Diaz-pam's (her old posts)dilution method using 99mls of water per 1ml of liquid valium.  It was just easier for my brain to taper with whole even numbers
If you would like make a post below letting people know where they can get more information, find her book, or get in touch with her that would be great.  and that way people who are suffering right now can find relief.  I would be more than happy to help spread the word on where to direct people to find more information.

I don't think Im going to come back on and post anymore but I will check my private messages every now and then.  If you are in the midst of this hell please don't lose hope.

[[Buddie]]

Hi there,
You can reach out to Jana via the Benzo Micro Taper (BMT) via their Facebook page.  Just do a search on Facebook and it will up. Make sure you see (BMT) This is the official patented protocol.  Ask to join!  Book is coming soon as well!

Jana is the OG of the Micro Taper.  There are "versions" out there and some might be dangerous due to the unknown history of someone beginning or trying to correct a taper.  As we all know benzos due to seizures and other complications must be tapered prudently.

All my best,
Mimi

[[Buddie]]

She actually had a legal patent awarded to her?

[[Buddie]]

That’s silly, it’s just math.

[[Buddie]]

That’s silly, it’s just math.

You are quite correct. Not only is this method not new, it was not 'invented' by Jana.  The term micro-taper was termed by a Benzo Buddie member years before Jana ever decided to take ownership of this method.

We on the admin team have been reading the patent, we haven't had a chance to read through the entire document but there are definitely some very glaring misconceptions, one being that those who follow her 'plan' do not suffer with the usual withdrawl symptoms. This is simply not true. We've had people join BB who followed Jana's 'method' did indeed have some difficult withdrawal effects.  There is simply no way anyone can guarantee such a claim.

Additionally, here are BB, members are welcome to speak about what works and more importantly when something does not work.

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[[Buddie]]

Sorry for the name!  I was re-reading my emails to you and was in that zone!  I want to set the record straight (again) and clarify your comment of Jana not wanting to be mentioned.  I think Jana wants people to acknowledge the benefits of Benzo Micro Taper (BMT)  and give credit without sharing the details BECAUSE.....

Jana's does not want people using the BMT method to post specifics about their own particular tapering schedule.  This is because every person has a unique biology and history!  History includes the specific benzo, other medications, gender, what we eat and many other details.

People reading someone else's tapering details (using the term micro) will give it a try and because they are not you they end up failing.  And we all know how horrible it feels to fail when tapering.  And the truly tragic ending is that people think the BMT does not work and lose an opportunity to use a method that seems to promote healing and avoid post taper symptoms.   I have personally witnessed dozens of people turn their tapers around once they identify their particular situation and move forward prudently. 

Water titration is not technically a Micro Taper. You can take huge cuts with titration.  And a micro taper is not a Benzo Micro Taper (BMT) in the same regard (and other specifics as well).  I always refer the BMT technique as the Ferrari of tapers.  Alot of focus on the details, a few bells and whistles but a smooth ride!!  haha

Jana has a book is the works and hopefully a site for people to learn the process in detail.

We all know there are many ways to taper and some seem to work for some people.  There is no competition but people should be aware of their choices and move forward with confidence and knowledge.

All my best,
Mimi

Sorry, this is complete nonsense. I am not meaning to single you out, [...] - there are many here who have been bamboozled by Jana's Method. Have any of you actually read the patent? Have you read the through the patent's process? There is some serious nonsense and errors contained within. Some of it dangerous and some completely at odds with reality. Did you know, for example, that Jana (or, rather Julian - presumably, her husband) claimed that most people following Ashton's protocols (or any other non-Jana protocol) end up suffering from protracted withdrawal symptoms? And that, conversely, non on one suffers protracted withdrawal symptoms follow her method. Please see the following two linked attachment downloads. The first concerns the claim about protracted symptoms; the second is of (now defunct) webpage from more than 20 years ago, describing the Winslow Protocols.

http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=229009.0;attach=22572

http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=215150.0;attach=22579

By the way, if Jana's method includes things not included in the patent, they are automatically offered no protection. And just because something appears in the patent, it does not actually mean that it is defensible.

So, a couple of other things. The first use of 'Micro taper' (of which I am aware) in relation to benzodiazepine withdrawal was by BB member, Keith64:

http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=8586.msg104458#msg104458

I have addressed the matter of Jana's method before. It might be worth a skim:

http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=72390.msg973423#msg973423 (and it goes on from there).

It is late here, but I will becoming back to this. But in short, there is nothing new in the patent, and there is a great deal of nonsense.