Author Topic: Valium/Diazepam Support Group  (Read 850969 times)

[Buddie]

Re: Valium/Diazepam Support Group
« Reply #23060 on: June 29, 2022, 02:56:33 pm »
Thank you [...]
Do you know of recommended scales for uk? When weighing diazepam do they have to go to 0.000
Thanks
[...]
Can you please point me in the direction of your dry microtsper? I [...] seem to see it online.
I tried to do 2 reductions earlier this year but cut and hold and struggled. I want to get back on it soon. Thank you
-I [...] want all of you to know that you are all in my thoughts and prayers. 

---I have a question for the entire group.   I am currently on an am dose 4 mg,  afternoon 3 mg, and evening dose of 9.   I have sx but I'm functional enough to work from home, do things with the family, but I do [...] alone time and rest times.  I have good days and bad days.   
---My question [...] I'm tapering 6 % per month using a dry microtaper.   I am cutting out my afternoon dose first.    I am measuring my 3 mg using the scale, calibrating, and cutting. My afternoon dose [...] very precise because that [...] the one I'm tapering.   
Here [...] my question:  My average 2 mg pill weight [...] .159.    I've noticed I have pills that weigh .164 all the way down to .155.   For my morning and evening doses I [...] pop the pills.   Should I also be weighing pills in the am and evening to keep them around .159 OR does it all even out?  What do you all do?

This [...] the taper [...] outlined in their signature, [...] this what you're looking for?

Alprazolam
Given by DR for 2 1/2 months during an illness
.5-1 mg every day
Quit CT beginning of June 2020
Almost died- lost 50 pounds
Reinstated- 20 MG of Diazapam (Held for 3 weeks)
Aug. 20- Cut to 19 MG
Sept- Cut to 18
Oct.-Cut to 17
End of Oct.-Cut to 16
Starting November 15- daily microtaper
Heading down to 13 mg (March 2021)
Headed down to 12 [...] (2021)
Headed down to 11 mg June (2021)
Headed down to 10 mg July 2021 (started water taper)
Headed down to 9 mg Sept 2021
Headed down to 8 mg Oct 2021
Headed down to 7 mg Nov. 2021
Headed down to 6 mg mid November 2021
Headed down to 5 mg January 2022
Headed down to 4 mg Jan. 22
3 mg in March
2.5 a April
2 mg [...]
1 mg June
Free

The only thing I know about scales [...] that most of our members buy the ones that cost about 30.00 USD and seem to do [...] fine.  Its all a matter of confidence in your method, if you're the kind of person who believes good enough works then go with less expensive ones, if you're the kind of person who needs things more exact then go for the expensive. 

Withdrawal and recovery [...] a difficult process for most of us here, so spending thousands on a scale that most likely won't ease the pain of this process seems overkill to me but then again, I'm the kind of person who [...] satisfied with good enough.   ;)
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[Buddie]

Re: Valium/Diazepam Support Group
« Reply #23061 on: June 29, 2022, 03:08:30 pm »
Thank you 🙂
Thank you [...]
Do you know of recommended scales for uk? When weighing diazepam do they have to go to 0.000
Thanks
[...]
Can you please point me in the direction of your dry microtsper? I [...] seem to see it online.
I tried to do 2 reductions earlier this year but cut and hold and struggled. I want to get back on it soon. Thank you
-I [...] want all of you to know that you are all in my thoughts and prayers. 

---I have a question for the entire group.   I am currently on an am dose 4 mg,  afternoon 3 mg, and evening dose of 9.   I have sx but I'm functional enough to work from home, do things with the family, but I do [...] alone time and rest times.  I have good days and bad days.   
---My question [...] I'm tapering 6 % per month using a dry microtaper.   I am cutting out my afternoon dose first.    I am measuring my 3 mg using the scale, calibrating, and cutting. My afternoon dose [...] very precise because that [...] the one I'm tapering.   
Here [...] my question:  My average 2 mg pill weight [...] .159.    I've noticed I have pills that weigh .164 all the way down to .155.   For my morning and evening doses I [...] pop the pills.   Should I also be weighing pills in the am and evening to keep them around .159 OR does it all even out?  What do you all do?

This [...] the taper [...] outlined in their signature, [...] this what you're looking for?

Alprazolam
Given by DR for 2 1/2 months during an illness
.5-1 mg every day
Quit CT beginning of June 2020
Almost died- lost 50 pounds
Reinstated- 20 MG of Diazapam (Held for 3 weeks)
Aug. 20- Cut to 19 MG
Sept- Cut to 18
Oct.-Cut to 17
End of Oct.-Cut to 16
Starting November 15- daily microtaper
Heading down to 13 mg (March 2021)
Headed down to 12 [...] (2021)
Headed down to 11 mg June (2021)
Headed down to 10 mg July 2021 (started water taper)
Headed down to 9 mg Sept 2021
Headed down to 8 mg Oct 2021
Headed down to 7 mg Nov. 2021
Headed down to 6 mg mid November 2021
Headed down to 5 mg January 2022
Headed down to 4 mg Jan. 22
3 mg in March
2.5 a April
2 mg [...]
1 mg June
Free

The only thing I know about scales [...] that most of our members buy the ones that cost about 30.00 USD and seem to do [...] fine.  Its all a matter of confidence in your method, if you're the kind of person who believes good enough works then go with less expensive ones, if you're the kind of person who needs things more exact then go for the expensive. 

Withdrawal and recovery [...] a difficult process for most of us here, so spending thousands on a scale that most likely won't ease the pain of this process seems overkill to me but then again, I'm the kind of person who [...] satisfied with good enough.   ;)
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[Buddie]

Re: Valium/Diazepam Support Group
« Reply #23062 on: July 07, 2022, 09:23:45 pm »
Bubba 13 here, new today, I've been looking at many methods of tapering on the internet but one question I haven't seen talked about [...] combinding a morning dose and an evening dose of [...] to be taken as one dose sometime during the day. I started cutting back on my morning dose which was 7mg but I have not reduced my evening dose which [...] also 7mg. Right now I'm at 3.5mg AM and 7PM. I've been on [...] for about 11 years and was put on that to get off of ativan. That worked fine but of course now I'm stuck with the [...]. I've been cutting back .5mg each 4 weeks which [...] slow but the tolerance [...] [...] at that level. In 1980 I went C/T from Serax, the Dr. was giving me 30mg caps but that would put a horse to sleep so I'd open the capsule and pour out about half the powder so needless to say C/T was 2 years of hell  but I made it through that. I've had lots of anxiety from the VietNam war that started me on all this. Anyway has anyone tried combinding two doses into one?
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[Buddie]

Re: Valium/Diazepam Support Group
« Reply #23063 on: July 07, 2022, 09:50:33 pm »
Bubba 13 here, new today, I've been looking at many methods of tapering on the internet but one question I haven't seen talked about [...] combinding a morning dose and an evening dose of [...] to be taken as one dose sometime during the day. I started cutting back on my morning dose which was 7mg but I have not reduced my evening dose which [...] also 7mg. Right now I'm at 3.5mg AM and 7PM. I've been on [...] for about 11 years and was put on that to get off of ativan. That worked fine but of course now I'm stuck with the [...]. I've been cutting back .5mg each 4 weeks which [...] slow but the tolerance [...] [...] at that level. In 1980 I went C/T from Serax, the Dr. was giving me 30mg caps but that would put a horse to sleep so I'd open the capsule and pour out about half the powder so needless to say C/T was 2 years of hell  but I made it through that. I've had lots of anxiety from the VietNam war that started me on all this. Anyway has anyone tried combinding two doses into one?

You're making great progress on your taper, and how you choose to do it [...] totally up to you.  What we've found [...] there are no hard fast rules that work for all of us, doctors seem to think they can group us all into a schedule but what works for one won't work for another so finding what works for you [...] key. 

[...] there a reason you want to combine the two doses?  I've found most members will alternate their dose reductions, one time they'[...] take a little off the morning, the next the evening or whatever their current schedule [...], its all about your lifestyle and daily needs.  If sleep [...] an issue, you can leave that dose heavy, if morning anxiety [...] intense then you can leave that one heavy for a time but eventually, they all have to go.
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[Buddie]

Re: Valium/Diazepam Support Group
« Reply #23064 on: July 14, 2022, 03:21:30 am »
Anyone find the manufacture liquid form of [...] 5mg/5ml solution (the orange solution) to be less effective? 
Also, what exactly does the 5mg/5ml solution actually mean?  I am really bad with math!  This [...] means for example 2mg of liquid [...] equal to 2mg in the pill form? 

So sorry to ask this question, but I [...] want to make sure.
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[Buddie]

Re: Valium/Diazepam Support Group
« Reply #23065 on: July 15, 2022, 03:23:08 am »
Anyone find the manufacture liquid form of [...] 5mg/5ml solution (the orange solution) to be less effective? 
Also, what exactly does the 5mg/5ml solution actually mean?  I am really bad with math!  This [...] means for example 2mg of liquid [...] equal to 2mg in the pill form? 

So sorry to ask this question, but I [...] want to make sure.
Hey Cooper
Itís directly proportional but liquid [...] not in mg itís ml
2mg pill equals 2 ml liquid
Itís easier to look at it as a 1 to 1
1ml of liquid equals 1 mg pill
So when you draw up liquid in a 1ml syringe completely full itís equal to 1mg pill form
[...] this makes sense
[...]
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[Buddie]

Re: Valium/Diazepam Support Group
« Reply #23066 on: July 15, 2022, 05:37:53 pm »
Thanks [...], I meant to say ML- but you know the struggle of Benzo brain!  Thanks for clarifying- I thought this was the case, but I [...] wanted to double and triple check as I don't trust my brain these days!

Thanks again!!
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Re: Valium/Diazepam Support Group
« Reply #23067 on: July 15, 2022, 11:27:37 pm »
Thanks [...], I meant to say ML- but you know the struggle of Benzo brain!  Thanks for clarifying- I thought this was the case, but I [...] wanted to double and triple check as I don't trust my brain these days!

Thanks again!!
Your welcome, I forgot to answer your other question
I tried that exact pharma liquid and it made me nauseas so I tried it only for a week. Many buddies I have read say it tends to be weaker and some have updosed a slight bit and it seemed to work for them OR they tough it out longer to get used to it like 2-3 weeks. I [...] couldnít deal with the nausea
Itís awesome if you can adjust to it
[...] this helps
[...]
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[Buddie]

Re: Valium/Diazepam Support Group
« Reply #23068 on: July 26, 2022, 01:43:47 pm »
hi folks emergency and quick question;  if you tried to go on v and couldn't tolerate it, how quickly do you went back to your starting benzo? Iím at 7.5m dia (only dia for over a month now before that I crossed over from 1mg ati to 8mg dia within 2 weeks) and have been throwing up unbearable conditions with tremor- seizures panic shaking etc. Only surviving. Considering going back to Ati so I can get by somehow and then very, very slowly withdrawing. thanks. So [...] asking HOW and how quickly do you went back to your initial Benzo? Or can you help me with withdrawing Dia?

Of course, I can also tell you a bit about my background:
I've been on benzos ati for 5 years on and off with several too fast withdrawals and kindlings in clinics because i trusted doctors etc but somehow could still endure it even it was hell.  now in march to april i was on antibiotics and had a bad setback and didn't know what else to do and started taking ati again daily (i hadn't understood for 5 years that ati was probably one of my main problems and kept wrecking my cns).  only now found all the info on the internet at benzo buddies and benzoinfo. So, from April 30th again daily ati 0.5-1.5 (I know already fatal) and then after 2 weeks at some point in [...] I wanted to stop and that didn't work.  I went crazy like never before in my past [...] with 7 days of no sleep, hospital, fear of death and non-stop panic.  I then increased back to 0.25 ati 4 times a day.  then I thought it would be easier to wean off with v.  I went from 1mg ati to 8mg dia in 2 weeks and that went well at first.  so when crossing everything was fine.  now since i've been on dia for over a month and already gone down to 6.5mg things have gotten worse again but so dramatically i can't sleep vomit panic shake fear of death seizures.  Bed bound completely destroyed.  In the meantime I've also tried to be more stable on 7mg dia for 2 weeks and it didnt work.  I have the feeling I can't tolerate the dia Öwith the Tavor it wasn't good either (no withdrawal from any benzo [...] easy) but with the dia only now it's no longer bearable for a second. Im getting somehow worse physically. so please: if someone has done something similar and [...] back please please write me a plan or at what speed you went back to ati xan or whatever.  I appreciate any reply from experienced members
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[Buddie]

Re: Valium/Diazepam Support Group
« Reply #23069 on: July 26, 2022, 07:40:43 pm »
No one here to help me ? :(
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