Author Topic: Suboxone for benzo withdrawal  (Read 964 times)

[Buddie]

Suboxone for benzo withdrawal
« on: October 02, 2013, 12:49:29 am »
I have been trying to find an addiction specialist but before I make an appointment. I ask them what protocol they use for taking people off of benzos. I have heard from a few now that they use suboxone. As soon as I hear that I day no thank you. I need to find someone who will do a slow taper and prescribe me Valium. Has anyone heard of Doctors using suboxone for benzo detox? Where do they come up with this?

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[Buddie]

Re: Suboxone for benzo withdrawal
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2013, 02:20:58 am »
First time hearing that one. The way I found my doctor was research and chance. This only works if you have insurance though. I went on my ins website and looked up female internists in my area. There were several. After that I researched a bunch and read reviews in yelp. I found one everyone gave glowing reviews about and went to see her. They were right. I told her about ashton and slow tapering and she was fine with it. In fact she seemed impressed. She helped me taper for over 3 years. Now I like older female doctors. I'm a guy in my low 40's. I just seem to have much better luck with them. The male doctors I have gone to think they know everything and lack compassion. That's just my take on it though.
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[Buddie]

Re: Suboxone for benzo withdrawal
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2013, 02:26:38 am »
This is crazy!
I used suboxone for ten weeks to get off opioids .... never heard of it being used for benzos.
It's horrible stuff!

I wish you luck finding a good doctor.  Unfortunately, I failed at this.   
I basically ended up with someone who would prescribe the tablets ..... but didn't have a clue about tapering ....
so I took care of my own titration taper at my own speed.

Wishing you well ....
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[Buddie]

Re: Suboxone for benzo withdrawal
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2013, 08:01:38 pm »
There is a "benzo wise" dr list somewhere, they should be familiar w/ the valium protocol.  See I was in the debate 17 months ago when I was near the end of a very slow multi year taper of xanax.  At .25mg I became non functional similar to where I am now, I always wonder if I switched to valium or something to become stable, once I was off that would I be in the same boat now?  Some people get slammed weeks/months after they stop.   
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[Buddie]

Re: Suboxone for benzo withdrawal
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2013, 04:32:07 am »
No. Suboxone is for opiate wd, not for benzos. That is crazy.
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[Buddie]

Re: Suboxone for benzo withdrawal
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2013, 05:41:14 pm »
No. Suboxone is for opiate wd, not for benzos. That is crazy.

I agree. Subutex is a really nasty drug in its own right and can be difficult to get off of. I've never heard of this being used for benzodiazepine withdrawal, and if someone suggested it to me it would set off alarm bells.
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[Buddie]

Re: Suboxone for benzo withdrawal
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2013, 11:40:33 pm »
I was put on, and am still on, Suboxone when I went into IOP for opiate addiction.  I was also on 4mg of Klonopin a day, and they was weened off it in 45 days.  For me, Suboxone is a miracle drug.  I have quit benzos and opiates cold turkey at the same time, and I don't wish that hell on anybody.  The Suboxone DID NOT help the Klonopin withdrawal at all.  It does help with the opiate withdrawal and cravings. After 2 months of being off of Klonopin, my doctor added Deplin and baclofen.  Deplin has greatly helped my cognitive function and the lethargy that comes with benzo withdrawal.   I find baclofen to be a great drug as well.  It is a GABA B agonist while benzos are GABA A agonists.  Baclofen does not work nearly as well for anxiety as benzos do, is not addictive, and does not give you a buzz what so ever.  It helps with the post accute withdrawal symptoms from benzos and keeps the benzo cravings at bay.  The Suboxone, Deplin, and Baclofen combiniation has me content and happy.  I have suffered with extreme anxiety and depression since I can remember.  I am a good looking, intelligent young man that comes from a great family, and have no reason to have depression.  I know for a FACT that depression and anxiety are indeed brain disorders and they are real.  You just have to find the drugs that work for you.  I don't plan on staying on the Suboxone forever, and will SLOWLY ween that when I am ready, and am further along in my 12 step program.  Good luck to you all.  I highly recommend suboxone if you want off opiates.
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[Buddie]

Re: Suboxone for benzo withdrawal
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2013, 10:12:24 pm »
Ive had a heroin and methadone problem in the past and really I don't know why anyone would even consider using a strong opioid for anything other than that which makes it unavoidable.Even the relief of the horrors of Benzo withdrawal is no where near enough of a reason to start taking something like Suboxone.Ive not taken Suboxone while withdrawing fm Benzos b4 but I have been on quite a high dose of Methadone and while the Methadone kept the opiate w/d's away as it is supposed to, for me it done absolutely nothing to relieve the benzo w/d's.It's not worth it believe me.I know a lot of people will say benzo w/d's are worse than opiate w/d's but imo if you put the two side by side for the same amount of time, the opiate w/d's are a much much worse thing to endure.
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[Buddie]

Re: Suboxone for benzo withdrawal
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2013, 12:18:41 am »
I was on suboxone for almost a year.

The physical WD will make you want to die.
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[Buddie]

Re: Suboxone for benzo withdrawal
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2013, 08:25:34 am »
I went through opiate withdrawals 4 times and they are brutal but atleast they were gone in 7 days. The thing with benzo wd is the length of time, up to 2 years to be normal again. I might tend to agree that having opiate wd as long as benzo wd would be a deal breaker!
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