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[Buddie]

Remeron HELPS benzo withdrawal.
« on: September 21, 2013, 07:12:38 pm »
I'm 2 months and 3 weeks out, and decided to go to the doctor for antidepressants a few days ago. I know many people here are shamelessly anti-medication, and I respect that. Personally, I felt like I needed to go on something. I went on Remeron, and I am extremely glad I did.

I'm less than a week into taking it, and already I feel miles better. I do believe this is more than a placebo effect, seeing as, physically, I feel much different. The edge has been taken off the anxiety, intrusive thoughts, and despair. My suicidality has lifted and I can fall asleep much easier than before. I don't wake up with racing thoughts about killing myself anymore. Granted, I took Remeron a few months ago during my taper. I thought it wasn't helping because I felt like crap all the time, but I should have kept in mind that nothing will 'cure' benzo w/d per se. To those still on antidepressants, thinking they are not doing anything, I'd recommend staying on them at least til benzo w/d is over. They are probably helping a lot more than you think, and you would probably be worse off of them.

Remeron normally takes 2-4 weeks for its full effects, so it will probably even get better as time goes on. There might be a chance I'm just in a window, but physiologically this is a new sensation all together. I went for a walk in the park today and enjoyed it immensely. The smells, the sensations, the hints of nostalgic thoughts, the weather was all very good. This is a departure from the normal anhedonic misery that I normally feel. I also don't feel the social paranoia and phobia anymore. I go into a public place no problem anymore. The agoraphobia is almost completely gone.

On another note, I don't want anyone to think I've adopted a Pollyanna attitude temporarily, and will crash later. I could end up feeling terrible again later. I don't feel 'cured.' I would say the buzz of despair has been tuned down to 3 from a 10. The mornings are still tough, but not wanting-to-jump-off-the-bridge tough.

I'm interested if any other buddies have had luck with Remeron or any other different meds for benzo w/d?
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[Buddie]

Re: Remeron HELPS benzo withdrawal.
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2013, 07:28:43 pm »
I went through Xanax, diazepam, zoloft, buspar, Geodon, lorazepam,  and back on diazepam for GAD.  None helped me, some made me worse.

My pdoc finally put remeron.  My sleep improved immediately, and after about 2 weeks, my anxiety abated.  I took 22;5 mg for about 3 years, with no significant side effects (did not gain weight)

When I went off, I did a 2 week taper (15 mg for a week, 7.5 for a week, then off...no WD sxs.

Great med, IMO.
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[Buddie]

Re: Remeron HELPS benzo withdrawal.
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2013, 08:04:55 pm »
It helped me tremendously, too. Without Remeron, I would not have made it.  I was unable to sleep more than 5 hours  even on the benzos in tolerance.
I cold-turkeyed and did not sleep AT ALL.

One week later they gave me a 15mg Remeron pill. I took it at night and slept 10 hours. That is how I healed and made it thorugh the first year off benzos. Then I tapered it and was off.

Very helpful.

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[Buddie]

Re: Remeron HELPS benzo withdrawal.
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2013, 08:36:20 pm »
Hi [...] and a a very big hi to fellow buddy [...] :)

I've taken small amounts of remeron for 7 years now. This was THE only A/D my CNS could handle.

It's been a life saver for me in several ways.
It initially helped me because the 3 months of Klonopin use my doctor prescribed me was causing me insomnia. This was probably due to a loss of seratonin and nor-epinephrine because of the influence of the benzos.
Currently, I still take small amounts, usually 4 mg. It helps me with the jet lag I go through because of a work/sleep schedule. Two nights a week, I have to stay awake until 3:00am. Other times, I work an early dayshift. I've never handled sleep changes well. The remeron helps to brighten my moods a bit on those groggy days.
I also use small amounts of melatonin, about 1.5mg.
The plan is for me to be on a permanent shift in 2 months. I'[...] first cut back the melatonin and then make a decision about the remeron later.
Best of luck to you. Like [...] and others here we are so glad that you have helped to find a med that is working for you.
Any further help you need with this one, I'd be glad to provide... Congratulations on being benzo free! :thumbsup:
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[Buddie]

Re: Remeron HELPS benzo withdrawal.
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2013, 09:32:07 pm »
I'm 2 months and 3 weeks out, and decided to go to the doctor for antidepressants a few days ago. I know many people here are shamelessly anti-medication, and I respect that. Personally, I felt like I needed to go on something. I went on Remeron, and I am extremely glad I did.

I'm interested if any other buddies have had luck with Remeron or any other different meds for benzo w/d?

I think that is fantastic.
I can see why people get anti-meds but personally to me it is baby out with the bath water.
Benzos are ghastly no doubt. But there are a range of meds - particularly A/Ds - that are used, help, don't develop tolerance and yes you have to safely taper but it isn't like benzo withdrawal.

I was on 10mg citalopram (celexa) when I started withdrawing of temaze and all hell broke loose. I started taking 20mg to help with the anxiety and depression and every time I've dropped down to 10mg my anxiety has been unpleasantly worse. I'm pretty sure that isn't withdrawal from celexa because I only took the 20mg for 2 days (or at least withdrawal from it can only be part of the picture). That was citalopram helping with some symptoms of w/d.

I've been prescribed remeron in case things get bad. If they do I will take it. I'[...] choose an A/D over benzos anyday.
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[Buddie]

Re: Remeron HELPS benzo withdrawal.
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2013, 11:48:12 pm »
I'm 2 months and 3 weeks out, and decided to go to the doctor for antidepressants a few days ago. I know many people here are shamelessly anti-medication, and I respect that. Personally, I felt like I needed to go on something. I went on Remeron, and I am extremely glad I did.

I'm interested if any other buddies have had luck with Remeron or any other different meds for benzo w/d?

I think that is fantastic.
I can see why people get anti-meds but personally to me it is baby out with the bath water.
Benzos are ghastly no doubt. But there are a range of meds - particularly A/Ds - that are used, help, don't develop tolerance and yes you have to safely taper but it isn't like benzo withdrawal.

I was on 10mg citalopram (celexa) when I started withdrawing of temaze and all hell broke loose. I started taking 20mg to help with the anxiety and depression and every time I've dropped down to 10mg my anxiety has been unpleasantly worse. I'm pretty sure that isn't withdrawal from celexa because I only took the 20mg for 2 days (or at least withdrawal from it can only be part of the picture). That was citalopram helping with some symptoms of w/d.

I've been prescribed remeron in case things get bad. If they do I will take it. I'[...] choose an A/D over benzos anyday.

Just want to add that celexa withdrawals are HELL to if you've been on them long like I was
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[Buddie]

Re: Remeron HELPS benzo withdrawal.
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2013, 12:17:53 am »
I'm 2 months and 3 weeks out, and decided to go to the doctor for antidepressants a few days ago. I know many people here are shamelessly anti-medication, and I respect that. Personally, I felt like I needed to go on something. I went on Remeron, and I am extremely glad I did.

I'm interested if any other buddies have had luck with Remeron or any other different meds for benzo w/d?

I think that is fantastic.
I can see why people get anti-meds but personally to me it is baby out with the bath water.
Benzos are ghastly no doubt. But there are a range of meds - particularly A/Ds - that are used, help, don't develop tolerance and yes you have to safely taper but it isn't like benzo withdrawal.

I was on 10mg citalopram (celexa) when I started withdrawing of temaze and all hell broke loose. I started taking 20mg to help with the anxiety and depression and every time I've dropped down to 10mg my anxiety has been unpleasantly worse. I'm pretty sure that isn't withdrawal from celexa because I only took the 20mg for 2 days (or at least withdrawal from it can only be part of the picture). That was citalopram helping with some symptoms of w/d.

I've been prescribed remeron in case things get bad. If they do I will take it. I'[...] choose an A/D over benzos anyday.

Just want to add that celexa withdrawals are HELL to if you've been on them long like I was

You might have been on SSRIs longer than I was, but I went through Lexapro withdrawal. It was pretty bad, but nowhere near as bad as benzo w/d.
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[Buddie]

Re: Remeron HELPS benzo withdrawal.
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2013, 03:33:59 pm »
I would like to try remeron, but I was put on 200mg of zoloft at the time I was taken off klonopin cold turkey.  I have read that taking remeron with an ssri can cause problems.  I already started tapering the zoloft to 175mg because of unwanted side effects.  Does anyone have experience with this?
Thanks.
NR
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[Buddie]

Re: Remeron HELPS benzo withdrawal.
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2013, 07:16:12 pm »
I would like to try remeron, but I was put on 200mg of zoloft at the time I was taken off klonopin cold turkey.  I have read that taking remeron with an ssri can cause problems.  I already started tapering the zoloft to 175mg because of unwanted side effects.  Does anyone have experience with this?
Thanks.
NR

Remeron and SSRIs both increase serotonin levels (although by different mechanisms).  Too much serotonin can cause several unpleasant effects, and can actually cause a very dangerous condition serotonin syndrome.  Remeron and SSRIs probably should NOT be used at the same time.
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[Buddie]

Re: Remeron HELPS benzo withdrawal.
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2013, 07:52:01 pm »
I was put on remeron early on in my taper and then again mid taper.  Both times I had to stop taking it fairly quickly.  Apparently I get a rare sde effect of myalgia from the drug, where I have difficulty walking.  What I learned from the experience and from others on remeron is that it can minimize w/d symptoms for some people.  However if one stops taking it too early in recovery from w/d, those symptoms will come back in full force. 

Also, while some people do not gain weight on it, it actually is promoted as a weight inducer.  It is given for many conditions where weight loss is an issue.  So if you do gain weight it is working as intended.  It is my understanding that there are no metabolic changes, meaning it doesn't slow your metabolism down.  Instead it increases your cravings/hunger. 

Also it's a paradoxical drug.  This means the lower the dose the more sedating it is and supposedly the higher the dose the more stimulating.  Despite the fact that the typical therapeutic doses are between 15 - 45 mg, I  found even 3.75 mg to be effective in reducing my symptoms and helping with sleep.  But again both of my trials on the drug were short lived.

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