Author Topic: Benzo free - flumazenil works!  (Read 45922 times)

[Buddie]

Re: Benzo free - flumazenil works!
« Reply #90 on: November 27, 2018, 10:33:51 pm »
This is purely a personal reaction from someone who has been on BB for over 6 years.
I think fooling around with Flumazenil is a truly BAD idea. Why? Because we who took benzos tend to think that yet another drug will fix what is wrong. This is how we got INTO this huge mess. We all need to learn how to deal with life's problems WITHOUT resorting to drugs. Do you get this, my friends??? This is truly important for your future.

Withdrawal is not fun. But here you are, suffering and feeling scared and wondering if how you feel now is going to be permanent. Learning how to get through withdrawal will teach you wonderful skills for dealing with anxiety, fear, insomnia, etc etc. If you do NOT learn these new skills, you will end up back on drugs to "feel better." Withdrawal can be extremely unpleasant or even almost intolerable. But, if you resort to taking a drug to feel "better" all you are doing is furthering your downhill slide. Most of you are younger than I (68). I took benzos for 30 years, God help me. And went cold turkey. My withdrawal was awful as many of you know. Trust me on this, people: If you continue to think that some drug,. some pill, will help you, you WILL end up as I did. Benzos nearly killed me, but somehow I survived. IF you dont [...] me, read my Success Story. [...]'s Trip.

Not enough is known about Flumenazil. You simply cannot [...] everything you read on the Internet. Much of it is garbage, and purely designed to take your money. And Flumenazil is simply yet another drug. Why do you want top risk your life... yet again?

Time for you guys to wake up and smell the coffee.
HUGS to all of you,
[...]
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[Buddie]

Re: Benzo free - flumazenil works!
« Reply #91 on: November 30, 2018, 07:21:02 am »
Hi [...].  I appreciate your perspective but if there was a single pill I could take right now and withdrawal would be gone forever, I would take it.   Withdrawal is a physical condition, not a psychological one.  What we are experiencing is the result of our receptors being downregulated.  If there was a way to speed up the upregulation and return to homeostasis, I think the majority of people would take it.  Life is not as simple as all pills are bad.  Remember, if benzos didn't have any withdrawal at all period, there would be very little complaints about them.  Certainly, this forum wouldn't exist.  It's not about pills.  It's about brain chemistry and how we don't know enough about it yet.

I did take flumazenil almost 4 years ago now.  I had an initial positive reaction to it that was short lived.  I would never discourage anybody from trying it.  Maybe it will work for them.  Just because it didn't for me, doesn't mean it can't for others.  The only real way out of this mess is through science.  Not the avoidance of all medication.  There is no medal for that. 
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[Buddie]

Re: Benzo free - flumazenil works!
« Reply #92 on: November 30, 2018, 02:29:50 pm »
@[...]...

Sorry you are still having waves...

Have you tried the Ginkgo Biloba protocol? 

It worked for a bunch of people?

I tried Flumazenil at the Coleman Institute in Virginia in September 2016.  If it worked, it took 6 months or so to kick in? 

Withdrawal has a lot of psychological symptoms associated with it that are caused from damaged Gaba receptors.

The actual cause of psychological symptoms is from the damage Benzos do, so I get what you are saying, but psychological symptoms, such as anxiety, depression, DP/DR, intrusive thoughts, suicidal ideation, exist and I experienced all the ones I listed. 
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[Buddie]

Re: Benzo free - flumazenil works!
« Reply #93 on: December 06, 2018, 10:13:10 pm »
I tried flumazenil in May this year but had been off benzos for almost 2 years. It did nothing for me. It only cost $1000 though because it was a not for profit medical clinic. TBH I ended up only paying $100 and just left without paying the rest because I was disappointed. I gave it 3 days.

I was taking lyrica at the time too so who knows.
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[Buddie]

Re: Benzo free - flumazenil works!
« Reply #94 on: March 10, 2019, 10:54:26 pm »
Hello Elisabeth,

I appreciate the abstracts, studies and your experience that have been posted. It will help me pose more intelligent questions to the facility I am considering that does subcutaneous FLU injections for eight days on an out patient basis. They require a care taker be with me in the hotel in case of seizures or other problems that may require a 911 call. This must be what it feels like to jump out of an airplane for the first time. The tapers have not worked for me. This is my last shot.

At least now I have some authors and researchers to cite in Google Scholar.

I do not know if your post were sent to me by you or as a matter of automation based on my subject line.

You have given me food for thought concerning the questions I need to have answered before I commit.

In any event thanks for doing the work and posting it.

Regards,

[...]
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[Buddie]

Re: Benzo free - flumazenil works!
« Reply #95 on: March 11, 2019, 05:07:04 am »
Hi [...].  I appreciate your perspective but if there was a single pill I could take right now and withdrawal would be gone forever, I would take it.   Withdrawal is a physical condition, not a psychological one.  What we are experiencing is the result of our receptors being downregulated.  If there was a way to speed up the upregulation and return to homeostasis, I think the majority of people would take it.  Life is not as simple as all pills are bad.  Remember, if benzos didn't have any withdrawal at all period, there would be very little complaints about them.  Certainly, this forum wouldn't exist.  It's not about pills.  It's about brain chemistry and how we don't know enough about it yet.

I did take flumazenil almost 4 years ago now.  I had an initial positive reaction to it that was short lived.  I would never discourage anybody from trying it.  Maybe it will work for them.  Just because it didn't for me, doesn't mean it can't for others.  The only real way out of this mess is through science.  Not the avoidance of all medication.  There is no medal for that.

Withdrawal is NOT just physical. Withdrawal itself is actually short lived. Damage is longer and what most of us on here experience, what you are referring to with receptors. However, to [...] Coast point, our coping skills, or lack there of, determine how, and if, we weather this storm while healing. The problems we took them for didnít go anywhere, they may in fact be worse because we havenít needed to practice our coping skills and integrating our experiences. I personally think when we come off we experience all the built up stress, trauma, etc we experienced while on them condensed into a short period of time, everything we were never required to process because the pill numbed it.
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[Buddie]

Re: Benzo free - flumazenil works!
« Reply #96 on: March 11, 2019, 02:11:27 pm »
Hi [...].  I appreciate your perspective but if there was a single pill I could take right now and withdrawal would be gone forever, I would take it.   Withdrawal is a physical condition, not a psychological one.  What we are experiencing is the result of our receptors being downregulated.  If there was a way to speed up the upregulation and return to homeostasis, I think the majority of people would take it.  Life is not as simple as all pills are bad.  Remember, if benzos didn't have any withdrawal at all period, there would be very little complaints about them.  Certainly, this forum wouldn't exist.  It's not about pills.  It's about brain chemistry and how we don't know enough about it yet.

I did take flumazenil almost 4 years ago now.  I had an initial positive reaction to it that was short lived.  I would never discourage anybody from trying it.  Maybe it will work for them.  Just because it didn't for me, doesn't mean it can't for others.  The only real way out of this mess is through science.  Not the avoidance of all medication.  There is no medal for that.

Withdrawal is NOT just physical. Withdrawal itself is actually short lived. Damage is longer and what most of us on here experience, what you are referring to with receptors. However, to [...] Coast point, our coping skills, or lack there of, determine how, and if, we weather this storm while healing. The problems we took them for didnít go anywhere, they may in fact be worse because we havenít needed to practice our coping skills and integrating our experiences. I personally think when we come off we experience all the built up stress, trauma, etc we experienced while on them condensed into a short period of time, everything we were never required to process because the pill numbed it.

"...our coping skills, or lack there of, determine how, and if, we weather this storm while healing. The problems we took them for didnít go anywhere, they may in fact be worse because we havenít needed to practice our coping skills and integrating our experiences. I personally think when we come off we experience all the built up stress, trauma, etc we experienced while on them condensed into a short period of time, everything we were never required to process because the pill numbed it."

This is the true elephant in the room.  Thanks for articulating exactly what each of us needs to do, [...].  It's so obvious, but so readily avoided, unfortunately.  There's no quick fix.  You must put in the work. Please heed [...]'s message in order to truly heal. 

sierra  :smitten:
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[Buddie]

Re: Benzo free - flumazenil works!
« Reply #97 on: March 12, 2019, 12:40:24 am »
they do a treatment in seattle https://thecolemaninstitute.com/seattle-washington/xanax-detox-in-seattle-wa/


i thought about going.

i still wish i did!!!!!


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