Author Topic: Seriously in need of help planning taper off Klonopin!  (Read 973 times)

[Buddie]

Re: Seriously in need of help planning taper off Klonopin!
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2023, 02:20:45 am »
There's no way you'll ever be close to accurate with any pill splitter gizmo. You're going to need a scale to get an accurate (or close to it) split. I wouldn't worry about the math too much, it doesn't really matter how many mg of the dose you're at, just weigh the pill on the scale in grams and subtract the % from it's weight.
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[Buddie]

Re: Seriously in need of help planning taper off Klonopin!
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2023, 04:46:49 am »
This is so frustrating! Do I need a scale now? I canít just make direct cuts until I get to the lower doses? I see why people just say screw it and either rapid taper by the way doctors usually recommended or just end up staying on these freaking drugs! This whole thing is absolutely stressful and complicated and I donít know what the hell to do.
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[Buddie]

Re: Seriously in need of help planning taper off Klonopin!
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2023, 04:49:38 pm »
This is so frustrating! Do I need a scale now? I canít just make direct cuts until I get to the lower doses? I see why people just say screw it and either rapid taper by the way doctors usually recommended or just end up staying on these freaking drugs! This whole thing is absolutely stressful and complicated and I donít know what the hell to do.

Hi!

I just started direct cut tapering from 1mg ClonazePam (once daily) in Dec. 22. I was/am as lost as you. The math seems overwhelming, but once you get it it makes sense. Having the basic tools helped me immensely:

Gemini 20 scale (Amazon) You must calibrate each time you use. Scales are very, very, very sensitive. Get new batteries. You donít know how old the ones in scale are. I tried the Smart Weigh Scale first, but it was a dud. Read the instructions and calibrate. Get used to it.
Weekly pill organizer box
Single edged razor blades (pill cutters arenít great for me and I have scored pills)
Metal nail file (for shaving)
Calculator
Notebook for recording dose and tracking symptoms

Most importantly, have a plan, but let your body guide you. How I am doing my taper follows, but it might be different than how you want to approach this. I have 0.5 scored ClonazePam (orange pills. used to take yellow unscored, but insurance changed.) which each weigh approx 165g, but they differ A LOT. I take only one dose a day. Itíll be harder to cut as I get to a smaller dose so I may have to switch to water taper or find a compounding RX, as [...] suggested.

Cut and hold: Subtract 5%-10% from current dose per month seems common, but symptoms will guide you. Holds are normal. Do not updose. You can ride it through. Calculate: 5% reduction is dose weight in grams x 0.95, 10% reduction is x 0.9. You make every cut from current dose, not starting dose.

I cut and weigh a weeks worth every Sunday. Itís easier and you only have to calibrate the scale for that day. Always recalibrate weekly or when starting new cut.

You can also try micro-tapering, which is filing off a minuscule amount every 1-2 days. You can always hold if symptoms are unbearable. I have not tried this, so I donít know dosing schedule, but itís probably like the liquid water taper. These are both covered in the Titration section.

[...] helped me, along with many others. He makes a point that at your current dose, being off by a few grams is probably not going to cause issues. If youíre going to do dry cut and hold or dry microtaper, you will need a scale and the few other things I mentioned.

I noticed that, for me, the symptoms hit hardest about 5 days after a 5% cut and itís usually just one or two really uncomfortable nights. My first cut was eyeballed and may have been 12% or more. I felt it around day 8-9. We are all different.

I hope I didnít make things more complicated for you. Iíd trust the people here who have been going through this for awhile. Iíve been told: Go as slowly as comfortable. Be your own guide, but donít hold too too long unless youíre going through an additional stressful event. Ask questions. Donít read horror stories. Be mindful of your health/stress levels. Avoid major changes if possible. Know you will heal. Be patient. The latter is the hardest for me.

Also, I hope you checked the link to https://benzodrytapermath.com/. The one from bob7. I need to and my words may be redundant. I truly know how you are feeling. It has to be worth the effort though. It is for me and I have many shitty days and many fairly okay days, but my life situation isnít great right now. That matters. I know you can do it. Apologies if Iíve said things you already know.

❤️
C
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[Buddie]

Re: Seriously in need of help planning taper off Klonopin!
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2023, 04:59:21 pm »
I did not use capsules like Bob7. Just FYI. Iíd rather do a water or microtaper if it gets to that.  :o
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[Buddie]

Re: Seriously in need of help planning taper off Klonopin!
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2023, 06:07:43 pm »
I (and many others) use this pill splitter to get my doses ready for shaving: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MH6XTL7. It's the most accurate I've found.
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[Buddie]

Re: Seriously in need of help planning taper off Klonopin!
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2023, 07:56:56 pm »
Great to know this one can be used to line up score and cut vertically. Thanks, [...]!
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