Author Topic: Miss Piggy needs advice  (Read 1378 times)

[Buddie]

Miss Piggy needs advice
« on: May 09, 2022, 06:19:47 am »
Hi [...] suggested I pop over here for help.
I have a rather long story but need some help...

Never been on any meds before this situation

Feb 2020
Burnout from work in education
Temezepam 10mg for sleeping

June 2020
Given fluoxetine by GP - reacted badly to feeling suicidal
Given 3mg of lorazapam by emergency team in order to combat above error (never told it was short term use)

June-Dec 2020
Kept trying to reduce lorazapam in 0.5mgs but would get to 0.5mg or 1mg and feel terrible (but no suicidal thoughts) so GP reinstated (now realise this was withdrawal and tolerance). Never once were we informed short term. GP later admitted she did not really deal in lorazapam.
Anti depressants moved to mirtazapine

Jan/Feb 2021
I found Ashton Report and asked GP to change over to diazepam. I organised it with a knowledgeable friend and we stepped over from 2mg to 20mg over 28 days. Felt good.
Started reducing in 2mg every few weeks

May/June 2021
Tapered 12 to 10mg and all hell broke lose. No concentration, no appetite, upset stomach, could not stop talking about how I felt, no longer wished to be here
Tried to reinstate to 12mg - did not work
Had to get emergency treatment and antidepressant changed to mirtazapine and imprimine. Felt good again

July 2021
Tapered to 11.5mg cut and hold - was fine
Discovered BB

Aug - Oct 2021 Had to resign job and clear out room. No reductions made. Low and sad dips.

Nov/Dec 2021
GP had placed me on HRT for low mood (no other symptoms) earlier in the year. Realised there was a relationship between progesterone and diazepam not good. Also left on pop pill from years ago. Had a huge dip based on the fact was now trapped on all these meds

Jan/Feb 2022
Restarted taper - very scared
11.5 - 11.25mg cut and hold (3 weeks)
11.25mg - 11mg cut and hold (3 weeks)
Seemed to be going well

Feb 2022
Partner returned to work in education after holiday.  I did not. Other stressors. Another big dip similar to July 2021

Held - medical team tried to up my AD imiprimine but I said no. Had to prove to them so better after 5 weeks

April 2022
Partner returned to work in education after holiday. I did not. Big dip like July 2021. Still stuck in it. Feel at the bottom.of the pit. Not sure I can keep going.

I am unable to talk about anything else - only myself and how low I feel.

I just wish I had never accepted the meds from the GP.  Most of my family and friends do not understand why I keep having these dips and I slowly feel isolated and alone. Big pressure on remaining friends.

Any help or advice appreciated.
Why do dips come even when you are not reducing? Why do I slide to the bottom so fast now.

Thank you








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[Buddie]

Re: Miss Piggy needs advice
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2022, 09:43:46 am »
Are you doing any therapy or counseling [...]?  Of course the benzos or other meds may be playing a role in how you feel but it sounds like you likely have some life issues that are dragging you down.  When I was well into my taper from clonazepam, it occurred to me that I would have to learn to deal with life without benzos so finding healthy ways to live life and cope with stress without them became my focus - and of course, this is an ongoing process.
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[Buddie]

Re: Miss Piggy needs advice
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2022, 09:51:33 am »
Started seeing pychologist recently.
Have spoke to several counsellors but never seem to get a good understanding of next steps.
What have you been learning from yours [...]?
Would a wave come out of the blue when not reducing?
I know [...] asked me to put this post up so hoping to get quite a few ideas from you all.
Also do you think dips always go to the bottom once you have been there once?
Are you doing any therapy or counseling [...]?  Of course the benzos or other meds may be playing a role in how you feel but it sounds like you likely have some life issues that are dragging you down.  When I was well into my taper from clonazepam, it occurred to me that I would have to learn to deal with life without benzos so finding healthy ways to live life and cope with stress without them became my focus - and of course, this is an ongoing process.
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[Buddie]

Re: Miss Piggy needs advice
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2022, 09:57:15 am »
Accepting the inevitable ups and downs of life is one of the main things I've learned since I quit benzos.  Usually when I have a dip in mood I can relate it to something that is happening in my life but not always.  Talking things out with someone (not family) I trust helps me get a clearer perspective and I have a fairly good understanding that the dips always pass.  Staying active and busy and helping others helps me out of the hole, too.
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[Buddie]

Re: Miss Piggy needs advice
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2022, 10:03:08 am »
Thank you [...].
Have you had dips that lasted for weeks?
Accepting the inevitable ups and downs of life is one of the main things I've learned since I quit benzos.  Usually when I have a dip in mood I can relate it to something that is happening in my life but not always.  Talking things out with someone (not family) I trust helps me get a clearer perspective and I have a fairly good understanding that the dips always pass.  Staying active and busy and helping others helps me out of the hole, too.
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[Buddie]

Re: Miss Piggy needs advice
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2022, 10:15:35 am »
No, none that last that long.  Usually 2-3 of bad days is all I'll tolerate before I decide I need to get out of the funk and I either talk it out with someone or turn my thoughts to helping others or both.  I was funky ALL
day yesterday (I got irritated with hubby) and even this morning when I got up so I am calling a good friend today to see if she can meet for lunch.  Actually, I already feel better for talking with you [...]  :-)
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[Buddie]

Re: Miss Piggy needs advice
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2022, 11:30:40 am »
Thank you [...]. Mine are lasting alot longer than a few days. Last one was over a month.
I am on 3rd week here and it's not good.
I hope [...] and she mentioned asking some others will be in touch about taper issues and next steps
No, none that last that long.  Usually 2-3 of bad days is all I'll tolerate before I decide I need to get out of the funk and I either talk it out with someone or turn my thoughts to helping others or both.  I was funky ALL
day yesterday (I got irritated with hubby) and even this morning when I got up so I am calling a good friend today to see if she can meet for lunch.  Actually, I already feel better for talking with you [...]  :-)
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[Buddie]

Re: Miss Piggy needs advice
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2022, 12:07:44 pm »
Hi [...],

I'm sorry I haven't been around, it still hurts to type. 

Can you expound on your dips, what are you feeling?  Also, I see you have tapered a bit in February, I wonder if a different method of tapering might keep you more steady?
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[Buddie]

Re: Miss Piggy needs advice
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2022, 12:46:33 pm »
Thank you [...]. Sorry to hear your finger is still not good.
Feelings: no appetite, little sleep, upset stomach, agrophobia, no concentration, looping thoughts, SI, yellow tongue, brain fog (could be lack of sleep), cannot stop talking about how bad i feel, ruminating on past errors on meds. Terrified I have ruined my life. Losing hope.
I still have a huge taper to go for diazepam and temezepam. Do you think if I moved them both over to diazepam it might help? Worried I would lose the 3-5 hours of sleep if I did that.
I feel really trapped and dont know what to do.
I also know that having progesterone in the bc pill and hrt are not helpful. Will they prevent me getting off?
The psych here will just want to up my AD and I am not keen to do that.
Thank you for your patience and help
Hi [...],

I'm sorry I haven't been around, it still hurts to type. 

Can you expound on your dips, what are you feeling?  Also, I see you have tapered a bit in February, I wonder if a different method of tapering might keep you more steady?
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[Buddie]

Re: Miss Piggy needs advice
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2022, 12:49:47 pm »
We were also going to discuss stress and anxiety and how that may play a part.
Would they send you in a tailspin even if you were holding?
How do you lift out of that? Distraction is not winning here x
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