Author Topic: Low dose Xanax over 5 yrs  (Read 586 times)

[Buddie]

Re: Low dose Xanax over 5 yrs
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2022, 07:08:53 pm »
[...], you’re doing a fantastic job!   The 12 hr interval would be too rough for me though.
 When I was dosing 4 x daily I tried to stay on a pretty strict evenly spaced schedule - every 6hrs.  It meant getting up in the night.   Once I felt fairly stable I began tapering that wretched 4am dose off.  While tapering that dose  I gradually stretched the times of the other 3 doses so that by the time the middle of the night dose was gone the remaining 3 were 8 hrs apart. 

I think pretty much everyone here will tell you that we all experience WD symptoms while tapering.  Mine included anxiety, feeling edgy (cranky), fatigue, some dizziness, headaches.  Etc.  Typically  the WD symptoms are worse the first 3-5 days after a cut.  I determined that I would just be comfortable with being uncomfortable. 
 
I downloaded “Xanax Withdrawal” by Dr. Stuart Shipko - $5 on Kindle.  It really helped. He appreciates Ashton’s work and though his suggested taper schedule was too aggressive for me,  his book is excellent and really gave me confidence.
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[Buddie]

Re: Low dose Xanax over 5 yrs
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2022, 09:54:36 pm »
Hi
The latest adjustment as already described has created new wd.  Full blown anxiety/panic attacks, tense muscles and shaking while standing- but only in public.  Before it was difficulty sitting and wanting to stand. I’m going to try to keep with the current dose for as long as it takes and try to interact with the outside world more since that is where symptoms get extreme.
Thanks for the suggestion on the book, it’s difficult to find addition materials that follow the Ashton method and it’s tragic that no one has picked up and expanded dr. Ashton’s work.

As for my doctor prescribing me .25mg, yes he happily would..lol. But he also believes that withdrawals are not so bad if it is even possible to become physically dependent on the “low dose” he has prescribed me.  Only in the last 2 weeks have i come to the realization it is NOT a low dose. 

I’m very grateful to have found BB.  All of us strangers connecting and helping each other anonymously for inadvertently getting addicted.  The medical establish has a long way to go.
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[Buddie]

Re: Low dose Xanax over 5 yrs
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2022, 12:30:49 am »
I wanted to show you this post, I happen to agree with it so I'm glad you've realized something your doctor has yet to understand. I also want to say that I'm glad you're going to push yourself just a little to interact with the world around you.  I know its difficult but its so important to preserve the life we had and want to live again.


Strength and potency are often used interchangeably, but they are not the same thing.

Strength is the amount of drug (active pharmaceutical ingredient or API) in a given dosage form (e.g. a 0.5mg clonazepam tablet contains 0.5mg of the API, clonazepam).

Potency is the amount of drug required to produce an effect of a given intensity. A highly potent drug (e.g., clonazepam) produces an effect at lower strengths (amounts) while a drug of lower potency (e.g. diazepam) produces an equivalent effect only at higher strengths (amounts).

Regrettably, some healthcare professionals do not understand the difference between strength and potency.  This is why members are sometimes told they are taking a ‘low dose’ or a ‘baby dose’ of clonazepam so don’t have to worry about becoming dependent on it.  The reality is that although the physical amount of drug they are taking is low, the potency and hence the intensity of the effects of the drug are high.

Addendum: Differences in potency are also why members need to be careful about adopting ‘one size fits all’ approaches to tapering benzodiazepines. For example, a 0.01mg reduction in dose of clonazepam is not the same as a 0.01mg reduction in dose of diazepam in terms of potency (effect).
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[Buddie]

Re: Low dose Xanax over 5 yrs
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2022, 01:40:16 am »
Thanks for reposting your. Post about potency vs strength.  I actually read it on the thread you posted.  I’m going through a lot of threads on here as everyone’s experience is of interest to me.

Because I’ve had an extreme reaction to interacting away from home since I started tapering, I make sure I leave home everyday, even if it’s for a drive.  It’s almost impossible right now for me to even go into a store due to an a sudden onslaught of various symptoms, but I’ll keep at it and a slow pace, hopefully I adjust to the tapering as I’m going to hold for a while.  I looked at many tapering schedules and realize slow and steady has the best chance of recovery.

When I was first prescribed Xanax, I requested a low dose of Valium, my doctor told me Valium was too potent and Xanax would be better since dependence was unlikely—- ya right!
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[Buddie]

Re: Low dose Xanax over 5 yrs
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2022, 01:09:14 pm »
Hi [...],

In one of your earlier posts you said you felt best when you exercised; when you had the least amount of symptoms. Yes, I think this is key. IF possible, push yourself to exhaustion. That will help so much with sleep and soothing the pent up anxiety and the "willies". I too had some rough weeks in social settings - I was very lucky to be self employed and able to hide for a time - but I did go to the grocery store and other necessary errands with full blown anxiety and paranoia eventually I realized it didnt actually show on the outside. Again, sort of pushing yourself through the discomfort makes things go faster. DO NOT get into a mind set of I
"i can't do X because im weird from xanax" Train yourself to speak only in terms of "you can. you will"  Many people on this board speak of the lies of benzo. Thats your brain telling you " i can't. im scared. I will never heal." You brain can't distinguish that program from reality and it will make it so. Every time I would fall into despair I would say, out loud, to myself, "thats not true. Im getting better everyday. This is going to end." over and over and over again.

I found the beginning of the taper harder than the end. If you look at my signature, you can see that I went from 3x daily dose to 2x daily. I never felt interdose WD at that point. I dry cut, and jumped after I was less than 1/4 of a .25.

You can do this.

I loosely followed the 45 day benzo taper - you can find it online - He cut every five days. I cut when I felt my CNS was stabilized. some cuts were longer than others.

Have a great weekend. Good luck to you. Dont be afraid.
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