Dry taper pill weight to jump off Klonipin

[[Buddie]]

Can anyone tell me in pill weight a good dose to jump off of for Clonazepam? I have been cutting percentages based on the weight rather than dosage and am at .036mg-about 20% of my original .5 dose (.170 grams TEVA brand) and don’t know the dosage equivalent/how to figure this out. I know people say to jump at .025mg but I believe that’s not pill weight. Does anyone know what pill weight for .5mg is a good jump point/Ashton safe? I’m very confused. I am either close or miles away so any help would be so appreciated!

[[Buddie]]

I've asked someone who is proficient at weights to jump into one of your other threads, hang on, we'll help you figure this out. 

[[Buddie]]

See more recent post below.

[[Buddie]]

[...] to the rescue again! You are always so kind and helpful. I appreciate it so much. So my original pill weight is .170 not 170-so sorry. Trying to type this on my phone. I’m at .036mg now with the goal of jumping at the Ashton Manual recommended .025mg but I’m realizing I must have misunderstood that as pill weight since that’s what I’ve been going by rather than dosage. .036 I believe is close to about 20% of my original .5mg dose but I don’t know what that equates to that folks are using on here (.125 being 1/4 of course) but I’m just confused. I thought I was close to the finish line but it seems I have many, many more cuts to go if so I’m a bit disheartened. Am I making a mistake in doing my percentage reductions based on weight? i.e. taking 5% off of .036 to get down to .034/hold 10-14 days then go to .032….Just trying now to figure out the weight equivalent of a good jump dose if any folks actually use that. Or should i be doing my dry scale calculations differently? Going way faster? I just saw a post about removing .001 a day but Im feeling each cut a lot and taking 10 days to stabilize right now. I haven’t  had any luck finding it written that way so if there’s a formula I’m missing I could use to equate my weight doses over, that would be great. I really hope I’m making sense. Again, I appreciate you so much.

[[Buddie]]

And [...]-thank you so so much!!!! 

[[Buddie]]

Thank you for giving us the correct numbers.

Here is an explanation followed by the revised calculations. I’ve also included the calculations needed to determine the pill weight of your target jump dose of 0.025mg clonazepam.

The weight of your pill (0.170g) is NOT the same as the medication dose (0.5 mg).  However, they are strictly related. When you reduce the pill weight by a given percent, you reduce the medication dose by the same percent.  For example:

You have reduced your dose from 0.170g pill weight to 0.036g pill weight.  That’s a reduction of about 78.82%.

This means you are now ingesting 21.18% (100% minus 78.82%) of your original dose by pill weight (0.036 divided by 0.170 equals 0.21177).

It also means you have reduced your medication dose by the same percent — about 78.82% and are now ingesting 21.18% of your original dose of 0.5mg clonazepam or about 0.1059mg clonazepam (.2118 times 0.5 equals 0.1059).

To determine the pill weight of your target jump dose of 0.025mg of drug ….

0.025mg of drug is 5% of your original dose of 0.5mg clonazepam (0.025 divided by 0.5 equals 0.05).

5% of a 0.170g pill weight is 0.0085g pill weight (0.05 times 0.170 equals 0.0085). 


Edit: Clarified percent reduced vs percent ingested

[[Buddie]]

Thank you for giving us the correct numbers.

Here is an explanation followed by the revised calculations. I’ve also included the calculations needed to determine the pill weight of your target jump dose of 0.025mg of clonazepam.

The weight of your pill (0.170mg) is NOT the same as the medication dose (0.5 mg).  However, they are strictly related. When you reduce the pill weight by a given percent, you reduce the medication dose by the same percent.  For example:

You have reduced your dose from 0.170mg in pill weight to 0.036mg in pill weight.

This is about a 21.18% reduction in dose by pill weight (0.036 divided by 0.170 equals 0.21177).

This means you have reduced your medication dose by the same percent — about 21.18%.

Your medication dose is 0.5mg of clonazepam per pill.

21.18% of 0.5mg clonazepam is about 0.1059mg clonazepam (.2118 times 0.5 equals 0.1059). So, you are currently ingesting about 0.1059mg of clonazepam.

To determine the pill weight of your target jump dose of 0.025mg of drug ….

0.025mg of drug is 5% of 0.5mg of drug (0.025 divided by 0.5 equals 0.05).

5% of a 0.170mg pill weight is 0.0085mg (0.05 times 0.170 equals 0.0085). 

Wow! [...]-I really can’t tell you how grateful I am for your thorough/thoughtful response. Thank you so much for your time. The reassurance/clarification you’ve given is beyond appreciated. I wish I knew you so I could do something nice for you in return! Between the brain fog/lack of math skills, I was spinning so thank you for “translating” for me. You’re a very kind and special person!

[[Buddie]]

You are most welcome, [...].  Your kind and gracious post is all the thanks I need.

ADDENDUM:

I really shouldn’t do math or write before I am fully awake. In my previous post, I did not clarify the difference between percent reduced and percent ingested. See edited post above. Mea culpa.

[[Buddie]]

You are most welcome, [...].  Your kind and gracious post is all the thanks I need.

ADDENDUM:

I really shouldn’t do math or write before I am fully awake. In my previous post, I did not clarify the difference between percent reduced and percent ingested. See edited post above. Mea culpa.

Got it! And I finally figured out how to work the dry taper excel spreadsheet so it’s making sense thanks to you! I hope you have a wonderful day. Thank you a million again.

[[Buddie]]

Thank you for giving us the correct numbers.

Here is an explanation followed by the revised calculations. I’ve also included the calculations needed to determine the pill weight of your target jump dose of 0.025mg clonazepam.

The weight of your pill (0.170g) is NOT the same as the medication dose (0.5 mg).  However, they are strictly related. When you reduce the pill weight by a given percent, you reduce the medication dose by the same percent.  For example:

You have reduced your dose from 0.170g pill weight to 0.036g pill weight.  That’s a reduction of about 78.82%.

This means you are now ingesting 21.18% (100% minus 78.82%) of your original dose by pill weight (0.036 divided by 0.170 equals 0.21177).

It also means you have reduced your medication dose by the same percent — about 78.82% and are now ingesting 21.18% of your original dose of 0.5mg clonazepam or about 0.1059mg clonazepam (.2118 times 0.5 equals 0.1059).

To determine the pill weight of your target jump dose of 0.025mg of drug ….

0.025mg of drug is 5% of your original dose of 0.5mg clonazepam (0.025 divided by 0.5 equals 0.05).

5% of a 0.170g pill weight is 0.0085g pill weight (0.05 times 0.170 equals 0.0085). 


Edit: Clarified percent reduced vs percent ingested

[...] - I think I have been my mg to weight conversion wrong.....I look at it as pill weight is .17grams and divide that by .5 mg to equal the weight being about 34% of whatever MG it is>  (.17/.5) = 34%.  Is that the wrong way to look at it?  and why?  see below A few of my daily reductions.

MG         Red %    Red amt   After Red   Scale Conv whole pills  .5 Pill (Scale)

 2.00          0.005     0.0100     1.9900    0.67658   0.51    0.16658
 1.9900     0.005     0.0100     1.9799    0.67317   0.51    0.16317
 1.9799     0.005     0.0100     1.9699    0.66975   0.51    0.15975

Hey [...]! I can’t speak on the math theee but I did finally find/figure out this conversion tool that will show you both the mg/weight for where you’re at all the way down to the end. Super helpful!

http://benzo.alwaysdata.net/titration/titrationForm.php