If it's the same climbing/training podcast, I listened as well and was also slightly taken aback. However, it was an encouraging listen given how badly Samet suffered those early years and with his setback. I appreciated that he noted just how functioning he really is (I mean he's climbing the same grade as 20 years ago!). He doesn't seem to let the withdrawal harm get him down; it's more of a realist attitude of acceptance and moving forward which is likewise inspiring.