My surroundings wants me to try ketamin. Advise needed. Am i stubborn?

Hello, i cant read all the threads all over im sorry to post another thread i think its discussed before

 

I have pain, nerve pain, fibro pain, freezing, squeezing neuropathy legs etc.

 

My surroundings advise ketamin because they have great results with their neuropathy.  I tell them my nervous system works different than a normal humans nervous system because it’s dirsrupted and wrecked by psychotropic drugs.

 

They say i read to much on the forums and that i have to try it at least listen to the doctors at the clinic. And that im stubborn. And that i dont get there if i stay like this suffering on the couch

This WD drives me and my family apart. Its sad

 

Its hard to explain the people around us whats wrong with us. But they say yes but you dont even try and you read only the bad stories online.. thats truth also

 

Dont know what to do

These search engines are much better at finding information on the forum if you care to use them.  http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=251991.0

These search engines are much better at finding information on the forum if you care to use them.  http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=251991.0

i cant browse and scroll too much at the moment im sorry for that

 

I hope this thread can stay alive and if not i will do searching when im in better state

Thankyou for the link and no problem

I had four IV ketamine infusions. They were quite the experience, not unpleasant.

 

They provided some temporary relief from some of my physical pain and my anxiety, however each one worked for a shorter time than the one before. So, I got maybe 3-4 days of benefit out of the first infusion, and by the fourth I got a day or less. It became clear to me that they weren't going to provide any lasting relief, so I stopped after number 4.

 

Here in the US I was paying about $400 USD per infusion.

 

If you have any questions I'll answer what I can.

 

 

 

 

Eey Nathan, thanks for your message!

 

I live in the Netherlands for me its free.

 

But of course in hesitant to try. My environment says it works good for their neuropathy. And they say just ask the doctors for your condition for advise. But i allready know that any doctor knows anything about WD and sensitized CNS.

 

I have pain, neuropathy (freezing/squeezing legs) symptoms. I want to try but scared also.

Do you if there can be long lastig side effects? (It states no, but they state no for paxil also)

So it provides only temporary relief? Some people say it can some kind or reset the CnS

 

I would like more info if you can provide.

 

My problems are mostly physical (i suspect drug induced peripheral neuropathy) paxil is on the list of meds that causes it. Drs still deny 6 weeks max of course

 

Thanks a lot

If you’re suffering from chronic neuropathic pain that has been resistant to traditional forms of treatment, Ketamine is worth paying attention to. A number of clinical studies throughout the past several years have demonstrated its effectiveness among patients with chronic nerve pain resulting from a variety of sources. According to the Online Pharmacy, with proper dosage and careful administration, Ketamine has the potential to bring you immediate, long-lasting, and much-needed relief. If you have doubts, it is better to address your doctor.

If you’re suffering from chronic neuropathic pain that has been resistant to traditional forms of treatment, Ketamine is worth paying attention to. A number of clinical studies throughout the past several years have demonstrated its effectiveness among patients with chronic nerve pain resulting from a variety of sources. With proper dosage and careful administration, Ketamine has the potential to bring you immediate, long-lasting, and much-needed relief. If you have doubts, it is better to address your doctor.

thanks for your message

 

Yes i have severe freezing/squeezing nerve pain from the Paxil in my legs. I cant walk properly because of it

 

I want to try but this ‘damage’ is caused by wd so i dont know how my system will respond to this

 

I know adress the doctor.. but also know they dont anything about wd and these psych meds effects so thats why i ask here. The doctor told me the paxil was harmless also.

So i guess i get better opinions here than from the doctors who provide treatments

 

Thanks

Also want to mention my physical symptoms neuropathy and stuff stays debilitating

But the mental symptoms are slowly clearing up after 12 months. I was in a black crazy wd bubble thats slowly fading

 

I dont know if it can mess up mental symptoms again? But i guess nobody can tell on forehand

Will ketamine harm you?

 

I don't think it's terribly likely. Ketamine's main use is as a surgical anesthesia. It has been used in the US and throughout most of the world for this purpose for 50 years now. Probably tens of thousands of people every day are given ketamine for surgical procedures in higher doses than you would receive and the rate of complications are low. If you try it you're probably only going to get a few doses and it will either not work and you will stop or if it works you might have to get a booster every now and then, perhaps a few times a years. What really ruins us with these drugs is chronic daily protracted use.

 

Will ketamine help you?

 

It helped my OCD and anxiety a little. It also helped the chronic pain I've had since stopping benzos/z-drugs somewhat. But, it didn't last. And each infusion lasted for a shorter time than the time before.  After my 4th treatment, it was clear that this wasn't going to be a solution.  And having hung around this site for 7 years now, I don't think I've run across a single person that said it cured them long term. I've seen a few that were very enthused after the first couple of treatments, but I noticed that when I look back at them they are still here sometimes years later complaining of the same problems that they once thought they were cured of by ketamine.  Obviously I don't know all the stories so there may be some that felt like they got long term benefit but I am unaware of them.

 

The main thing that Ketamine is supposed to be good at is snapping people out of really severe depressions. You do hear people that are absolutely suicidal that are turned around after just a few treatments, in some cases just one treatment. So if severe depression is your problem, I'd certainly give it good consideration.

 

For chronic pain/neuropathic pain I think you'll hear more of a mixed bag of results.

 

Clearly, I thought it was worth a shot and I ended up paying around $1800 USD for the treatments. If I could get them for free I would have been even quicker to try it.

 

It is an interesting experience. It is a dissociative drug so you do have an out of body experience. I found it to be pleasant but I could see some people being frightened by it. After my first infusion my initial thought was "wow, I can see why people use this recreationally".

 

At the end of the day, I didn't feel like trying ketamine harmed me or set me back, but neither did it do me any sustainable good.

 

 

 

Hello, i cant read all the threads all over im sorry to post another thread i think its discussed before

 

I have pain, nerve pain, fibro pain, freezing, squeezing neuropathy legs etc.

 

My surroundings advise ketamin because they have great results with their neuropathy.  I tell them my nervous system works different than a normal humans nervous system because it’s dirsrupted and wrecked by psychotropic drugs.

 

They say i read to much on the forums and that i have to try it at least listen to the doctors at the clinic. And that im stubborn. And that i dont get there if i stay like this suffering on the couch

This WD drives me and my family apart. Its sad

 

Its hard to explain the people around us whats wrong with us. But they say yes but you dont even try and you read only the bad stories online.. thats truth also

 

Dont know what to do

 

Hi,

Ketamine has been suggested to me, too. Our reaction - in benzo WD - will be different than other people's. You are right for worrying (not that worry helps, but you know what I mean). I consulted with a Ketamine specialist and a different psychiatrist in New York. I can't remember what happened exactly - I think I was not encouraged to try this. I think one of them was worried it might rile me up more - make me more anxious.

My memory is so bad, I can't remember why I rejected this mode of treatment in the end. I also think I looked up Ketamine on BB and found that more people had negative reactions to it than positive.

 

I did try TMS - transcranial magnetic stimulation - and didn't have any negative or positive effects. I might've had some temporary fatigue but no serious negative reaction. It was a waste of my time, energy, and money.

I also tried the Fisher Wallace Cranial Stimulator - which seemed to help temporarily on the highest level of stimulation, but I came crashing right back down . . . nothing seemed to really fix my brain.

Look into Flumazenil treatment - there are discussions on BB about that - not sure if it's a good treatment for you - seems to have a 50/50 chance of helping some symptoms, but you need to be off of benzos for a while. I didn't look at your history well.

okay thanks both for the detailed stories! So it looks like a temporary relief for some. I think the same if i do research online.

Depression is not my main cause (anymore)

 

so i think for now i stay with the Alpha Lipoic Acid. Its getting a little better since i take it. I dont know if coincidence or it works. But electricity feeling is  slightly down. i will take it for at least 6 months from now

 

 

 

thanks for the recommendation.

What is the AL acid you're taking and what is it for?

Alpha Lipoic Acid has been shown to be beneficial to some types of peripheral neuropathy. Most of the studies on it are for diabetic peripheral neuropathy, but it is probably useful for other forms of PN as well.

 

 

Thanks a lot for your extensive responses i appreciate.

 

I did a lot of research for the ketamin and indeed for some people it's helpfull and some not. I see a lot of people with hallucinations and stuff. That's not for me. I did some recreational drugs some years ago (uppers) without a problem but hallucinating kind of things are not for me.

 

I see online on the reviews people who liked this experience and i see people who stated it was the scariest and traumatic thing of their life.

Also i saw reviews from parents who stated that their child with depression gone for the ketamin treatment with good hope. And 2 days after the treatment they took their own life. Not 1 message but many more. Where these parents warned and said without the treatment the child would be alive 100%.

I guess in some people it does something in the brain that boundaries fade away or something.

 

https://www.drugs.com/comments/ketamine/

 

it was on these site i readed the reviews.

 

Off course everybody is different, and everybodys situation is different. My parents say don't read on the internet you only read horror stories. They also said that with the paxil. But now i wish i did. Because im a horrer story myself now 

 

So with all these info i made a decission that i can't take the risk even when there's a chance for (temporary) relief.

i will stick by the magnesium and alpha lipoic acid for now.

 

Thanks again buddies