[Bi...] Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 Hello Friends, I have been holding at .25mg Ativan for over 2 months (.125mg AM and .125mg PM). For my next cut I was planning moving down to .125 mg by dropping the AM dose. Well... I actually forgot to take my PM dose last night, and accidentally experienced what it would be like if I dropped a dose. It was not good at all. Can anyone explain how I can use a liquid to make my own smaller doses to use for the final taper? Or point me toward a resource? I am pretty convinced after last night that I need a new strategy. Thank you! Bibs jo *I also posted this on the direct thread as I am hoping to switch from direct to titration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ko...] Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Hi Bibsjo! Generic lorazepam comes in a 2 mg/mL liquid concentrate that goes by the ominous name Intensol. The instructions say: "This medication is a high-strength concentrated liquid. Use the provided medicine dropper to carefully measure the exact amount of medication prescribed by your doctor. You may mix the measured dose with a small amount of juice, water, soda, applesauce or pudding. Stir in one dose and mix gently for a few seconds. After preparing one dose, drink or eat the entire mixture right away. Do not prepare a supply for future use." You would have to take just a small portion of a very diluted dose, the balance of which cannot be saved for future use, so you would probably end up wasting a lot of it. But at $8 to $13 per 30 mL bottle, it doesn't seem terribly expensive. https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-14588/lorazepam-intensol-oral/details#:~:text=This%20medication%20is%20a%20high,gently%20for%20a%20few%20seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ko...] Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Here's a link to a more thorough description of Intensol. https://docs.boehringer-ingelheim.com/Prescribing%20Information/PIs/Roxane/Lorazepam/Lorazepam%20Intensol.pdf If you're in the US and your doctor is cooperative, this seems like a convenient tapering option. The liquid comes with a dropper that delivers a minimum volume of 0.25 mL, equal to 0.5 mg. So you could add that amount to 50 mL of water to get a 0.01 mg/mL solution. Using that solution, you have complete flexibility as to dose decrements. For example, 12.5 mL of 0.01 mg/mL solution = 0.125 mg lorazepam (discard 37.5 mL) 12.4 mL of 0.01 mg/mL solution = 0.124 mg lorazepam (discard 37.6 mL) and so on, all the way down to 0.10 mL of 0.01 mg/mL solution = 0.001 mg lorazepam (discard 49.9 mL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Bi...] Posted August 14, 2020 Author Share Posted August 14, 2020 Hi Bibsjo! Generic lorazepam comes in a 2 mg/mL liquid concentrate that goes by the ominous name Intensol. The instructions say: "This medication is a high-strength concentrated liquid. Use the provided medicine dropper to carefully measure the exact amount of medication prescribed by your doctor. You may mix the measured dose with a small amount of juice, water, soda, applesauce or pudding. Stir in one dose and mix gently for a few seconds. After preparing one dose, drink or eat the entire mixture right away. Do not prepare a supply for future use." You would have to take just a small portion of a very diluted dose, the balance of which cannot be saved for future use, so you would probably end up wasting a lot of it. But at $8 to $13 per 30 mL bottle, it doesn't seem terribly expensive. https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-14588/lorazepam-intensol-oral/details#:~:text=This%20medication%20is%20a%20high,gently%20for%20a%20few%20seconds. Koko Lee, Oh my gosh THANK YOU! I am in the US and I had no idea this was an option. I will run this by my doctor as soon as I can. He may be on vacation. Thank you again! ~ Bibs Jo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Li...] Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Bibsjo: Good for you for talking to your prescriber about the lorazepam Intensol. If you decide to pursue this option, we could put together a “how to” sheet on preparing and measuring your doses in accordance with the manufacturer’s instructions for using an Intensol. FYI This particular Intensol requires refrigeration. Koko Lee: Good to see you on the boards as always. FYI - it appears that at least one of the manufacturers in the US (West-Ward now owned by Hikma) has changed from a dropper to an oral syringe for the measuring device. Source: DailyMed https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ko...] Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Oh my gosh THANK YOU! I am in the US and I had no idea this was an option. I will run this by my doctor as soon as I can. My pleasure, Bibs jo! I truly hope this possibility works out for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Ko...] Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Bibsjo: Good for you for talking to your prescriber about the lorazepam Intensol. If you decide to pursue this option, we could put together a “how to” sheet on preparing and measuring your doses in accordance with the manufacturer’s instructions for using an Intensol. FYI This particular Intensol requires refrigeration. Koko Lee: Good to see you on the boards as always. FYI - it appears that at least one of the manufacturers in the US (West-Ward now owned by Hikma) has changed from a dropper to an oral syringe for the measuring device. Source: DailyMed https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed Thanks Libertas! Your input is always helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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