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[Buddie]

Who here had an exercise induced set back?
« on: November 17, 2019, 08:06:24 pm »
All,

[...] brought to my attnention that he and some members felt fine for quite some time an dthen had a full blown set back brought on only my exercising.

I am not talking about a wave where you felt shitty for a week, I mean you went from a decent baseline to a much lower baseline from which it took months to recover or from which you never recovered.

If this describes you, please post here.  I would rather a post so people will know about what happened to others, but if this is a sensitive topic for you send me a PM. Either way, describe EXACTLY what happened, and your exact med history.  Do not leave anything out, smoking, supplements, anything you did before and after your major change in baseline.

Thank you, in advance, for the information. 

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[Buddie]

Re: Who here had an exercise induced set back?
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2019, 08:08:28 pm »
I loved Bart, and this thread, but if there is a flaw here, we need to find it:
http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=77609.0;topicseen
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[Buddie]

Re: Who here had an exercise induced set back?
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2019, 08:36:58 pm »
Ativan 1 year.
Pretty shit for 2 years after, but functional. Mostly physical pain and sensitivity. Not many brain symptoms.

About a month or 2 prior to my 2 year benzo anniversary I started hitting the gym hard.
Daily heavy lifting, daily cardio, daily sauna sessions. I wanted to get my body and mind back to feeling sharp. I felt I was steadily recovering from benzos and feeling pretty decent, but wanted to push it back to 100. It felt damn good at first.

About two weeks after the (nearly) daily exercise routine, I started getting waves of this really weird, dizzy, light-headedness. I had random bouts of dysautonomia for the 2 years since benzos, but never as constant and persistent as this felt. I also began noticing some new pains that gradually appeared with the new intense dysautonomia. Pains in locations I never had pain.

Then after a couple weeks of feeling this way, still pushing myself in the gym, I was driving home from my routine one day and shit snapped. I had the most intense feeling of dysautonomia I have ever had. It feel like my consciousness was slapped by some cosmic force. My whole brain and vision like turned on its side. I couldn't see clear or think clear. I pulled over, nearly wrecked. And called my family to take me to the ER. I thought I was having a stroke.

My nervous system continued to act crazy leading up to going to the ER. My chest and head burned. I thought something was seriously wrong; heart attack, stroke, something that was going to kill me... This fueled my panic, which made all the symptoms worse. The light pain I was feeling in my lower abdomen after my work outs became scarily intense and deep. My dysautonomia was worse than I thought was possible. I felt like I would never be the same again. I was sure I would die.

In the ER things continued and I kept panicking. On top of all of the absurd nervous system symptoms that overcame me, I likely began to have an actual panic attack too in the fear of what what happening to me. And that, again, just increased symptoms to their max. They gave me IVs of benadryl.

I woke up the next day, hardly remembered any of it. But the dysautonomia and new physical pain have remained for the past 5 months now. They're better than they were when I first woke up the morning after the incident. I contemplated dying for the first month. It's better than that now. But it is still debilitating. I also now have major fatigue, extreme chemical sensitivity, and extreme intolerance to temperatures and light. None of which I had prior to the setback.
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[Buddie]

Re: Who here had an exercise induced set back?
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2019, 09:03:38 pm »
[...], did you ever have your catecholamines checked, especially norepinephrine? I'm so sorry this happened!! It must have been so scary. The catecholamine lab test covers dopamine, epinephrine, and norepinephrine. Catecholamines get kicked up when we exercise.

Did the doctors give any indication as to why this happened? I realize they only treat symptoms, but did anyone have a clue beyond drugs given, etc.?

I think this is a very good thread.

I remember back in withdrawal, walking and doing yoga, working with weights, thinking that the more exercise, the better my body would heal. I was out walking one day and suddenly felt the left side of my mouth slacken. I was afraid I was having a stroke, and it wasn't too far off from the TIA I'd suffered. It lasted only a couple of seconds, but I looked in a shop window to make certain my face was still symmetrical. It scared the hell out of me. Right then and there, I limited my exercise. I couldn't handle the stress it brought on.

Exercise induces increased catecholamine concentrations in athletes. This increase varies depending on the duration, intensity, and type of exercise. Adrenaline and noradrenaline are the main hormones whose levels increase substantially during exercise.
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[Buddie]

Re: Who here had an exercise induced set back?
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2019, 09:27:23 pm »
Iím not 100% sure exercise caused my setback. But as I look back now, it seems probable. Very similar to [...].

Thinking it could be more of a cortisol issue than glutamate, but who knows?

Along with excessive exercise, had some big life stressors going on. Right now, my thinking is could of started NO OH NOO Cycle ...


In tolerance, in taper, and first 16 months benzo free, I kept increasing my workouts. Was doing 30 minutes light cardio, stretching, light upper body weights. Increased over time to 60 minutes intense cardio.

Was at gym, doing cardio, October 2018. Felt odd. Stopped workout. Anxiety - feeling like whole body and brain plugged into electrical socket. Left leg and hip numb.

Didnít sleep 7 days. Hospitalized. Given remeron.


Have had these symptoms 24/7 now for over year.


New symptom February of this year - vertigo. Middle February, felt dizzy for a few seconds. Felt dizzy for a few seconds everyday for 2 weeks. February 28, woke up so dizzy - left side of face numb, vision bad. Went to hospital - thought it was stroke. (It was not.)


Today - extreme protracted symptoms - ďanxietyĒ, cog fog, vertigo, fear. Home and bed bound.



Thanks,



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[Buddie]

Re: Who here had an exercise induced set back?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2019, 10:56:28 pm »
I have been working out. I stretch alot because of muscle pain. My hips and low back hurt. So I do strengthening excercises and i walk. The past few weeks it is getting bad again.  My lower body cramps so bad i can barely walk.  Maybe it is from to mucj excercise.
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[Buddie]

Re: Who here had an exercise induced set back?
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2019, 11:14:45 pm »
[...],

Did your increase in issues coincide withe your change in K brand?  I also try to steretch and walk as much as I can and had a major issue with mirtazapine brand.  I may have a solution if you think you issues could coincide with brand change rather than exercise.

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[Buddie]

Re: Who here had an exercise induced set back?
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2019, 08:13:26 am »
Hi Rancon,
Yes! When I switched from activis to teva k it got so bad. I had it before from a bad co from x to v. My mucsles cramped everywere and got pins and needles. Went back on k activis and felt i was improving.  Then the switch to teva was bad ugh.
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[Buddie]

Re: Who here had an exercise induced set back?
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2019, 04:13:55 pm »
[...],

I knew it.  I had to switch brands of Remeron/mirtazapine and all hell broke loose.  I have some good news and some bad news.  The good news is I MIGHT have a solution. I have not tested it yet, but you may not need it.

I HAD to switch FROM Teva mirt to other brands because Teva stopped making mirtazapine, and I could not tolerate any other brand.

Is there a reason you HAD to switch?  Can you get access to Activis and stay on Activis? 

In most countries and states in the US you are allowed to choose a pharmacy and specify to that pharmacy the brand you want.  My Dad had the same problem with his Zoloft and when he went back to the brand his body was used to, everything was fine.

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[Buddie]

Re: Who here had an exercise induced set back?
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2019, 04:27:55 pm »
Hi Rancom,
That is what happened.  I never had teva k before. The whole time i have been on k the pills were yellow and now green. It Its awful. Were you ableto switch back? Did you feel netter if you did. I could call other pharmavies and see. I am afraid to fhsnge again because my body is a mess with all these changes
 Maybe co slow. What is wrong with these ppl
 Ahhh. Are you feeling ok? My m8cles are killing me. I cant really walk it hurts so bad.
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