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[Buddie]

Help! I updosed by 2.5mg tonight!
« on: October 09, 2019, 10:22:54 am »
Hi guys,
I updosed by 2.5mg tonight as I had all over body shakes (again!) at 4.8mg.
Should I go back to my current taper of 4.8mg, or stabilise at this new dose (7.5mg) and then taper from that?
Bare in mind, this is the first night I've felt like having another 1/2 a tablet.
I am waiting on an order of Propylene Glycol so I can do a proper liquid taper.
I used whole milk until then, but I find milk really doesn't work that well.
So what do I do?
Dave.  :'(
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[Buddie]

Re: Help! I updosed by 2.5mg tonight!
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2019, 12:33:28 pm »
Dave, that question is for you to answer, imo, you can go back to your normal dose now, if you are feeling okay.  Only stay at that higher dose if you feel you really need it.  That's a lot extra to have to taper if you don't.  You might also, come back down 1.25 today , and then 1.25 tomorrow, that way you are giving your system a break but going back to your normal dose.  So you have some options.
Only your symptoms can guide you, but you can come back down, wish you luck.  Let us know what you decide and how you are.  [...] 💜
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[Buddie]

Re: Help! I updosed by 2.5mg tonight!
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2019, 12:47:08 pm »
Dave, that question is for you to answer, imo, you can go back to your normal dose now, if you are feeling okay.  Only stay at that higher dose if you feel you really need it.  That's a lot extra to have to taper if you don't.  You might also, come back down 1.25 today , and then 1.25 tomorrow, that way you are giving your system a break but going back to your normal dose.  So you have some options.
Only your symptoms can guide you, but you can come back down, wish you luck.  Let us know what you decide and how you are.  [...] 💜
Hi [...],
I will do as you suggested - come down 1.25mg of Valium tomorrow, and then 1.25mg the following day and resume my taper again at the 5mg, but at 3%/14 days instead of 4%. I think I'm tapering too quickly.
I'll use Propylene Glycol as the solvent. My order of Propylene Glycol should come here tomorrow.
I tried zero-alcohol mouthwash before as a solvent, and although its definitely not recommended, it dissolved my Valium as it had PG in it.
Dave.  8)
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[Buddie]

Re: Help! I updosed by 2.5mg tonight!
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2019, 01:02:51 pm »
Dave, that question is for you to answer, imo, you can go back to your normal dose now, if you are feeling okay.  Only stay at that higher dose if you feel you really need it.  That's a lot extra to have to taper if you don't.  You might also, come back down 1.25 today , and then 1.25 tomorrow, that way you are giving your system a break but going back to your normal dose.  So you have some options.
Only your symptoms can guide you, but you can come back down, wish you luck.  Let us know what you decide and how you are.  [...] 💜
Hi [...],
I will do as you suggested - come down 1.25mg of Valium tomorrow, and then 1.25mg the following day and resume my taper again at the 5mg, but at 3%/14 days instead of 4%. I think I'm tapering too quickly.
I'll use Propylene Glycol as the solvent. My order of Propylene Glycol should come here tomorrow.
I tried zero-alcohol mouthwash before as a solvent, and although its definitely not recommended, it dissolved my Valium as it had PG in it.
Dave.  8)

Good plan, Dave, keep us posted and wishing you lots of luck!!   [...] 🍀🍀
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[Buddie]

Re: Help! I updosed by 2.5mg tonight!
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2019, 08:22:06 am »
Dave, that question is for you to answer, imo, you can go back to your normal dose now, if you are feeling okay.  Only stay at that higher dose if you feel you really need it.  That's a lot extra to have to taper if you don't.  You might also, come back down 1.25 today , and then 1.25 tomorrow, that way you are giving your system a break but going back to your normal dose.  So you have some options.
Only your symptoms can guide you, but you can come back down, wish you luck.  Let us know what you decide and how you are.  [...] 💜
Hi [...],
I will do as you suggested - come down 1.25mg of Valium tomorrow, and then 1.25mg the following day and resume my taper again at the 5mg, but at 3%/14 days instead of 4%. I think I'm tapering too quickly.
I'll use Propylene Glycol as the solvent. My order of Propylene Glycol should come here tomorrow.
I tried zero-alcohol mouthwash before as a solvent, and although its definitely not recommended, it dissolved my Valium as it had PG in it.
Dave.  8)

Good plan, Dave, keep us posted and wishing you lots of luck!!   [...] 🍀🍀
Hi [...],
Today, I managed to go back to my 2.5mg timed doses at 10:30am and 6:30pm. I don't think I stabilised properly, plus I was drinking coffee (has to be decaf now).
At 2:30pm, I sweated a LOT and did have some pill cravings, but they went away in an hour.
I walked 6245 steps today, as I put my car in for a service.  :thumbsup:
I'm thinking of reducing my morning dose first, as this is how Dr. Peter Breggin weaned a client of his off 4mg Clonazepam (Klonopin). He reduced the evening dose last, because benzos have the sedative-hypnotic effect.
I was weaning the opposite way. Maybe stabilising on 5mg for 2 weeks from this updose is a way to go, and then reduce the morning dose first, rather than the evening dose.
My Propylene Glycol hasn't arrived just yet  :tickedoff: but I can't wait to get stuck in to using it for my (hopefully much smoother) taper.
Dave.  8)
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[Buddie]

Re: Help! I updosed by 2.5mg tonight!
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2019, 12:33:32 pm »
Dave, that question is for you to answer, imo, you can go back to your normal dose now, if you are feeling okay.  Only stay at that higher dose if you feel you really need it.  That's a lot extra to have to taper if you don't.  You might also, come back down 1.25 today , and then 1.25 tomorrow, that way you are giving your system a break but going back to your normal dose.  So you have some options.
Only your symptoms can guide you, but you can come back down, wish you luck.  Let us know what you decide and how you are.  [...] 💜
Hi [...],
I will do as you suggested - come down 1.25mg of Valium tomorrow, and then 1.25mg the following day and resume my taper again at the 5mg, but at 3%/14 days instead of 4%. I think I'm tapering too quickly.
I'll use Propylene Glycol as the solvent. My order of Propylene Glycol should come here tomorrow.
I tried zero-alcohol mouthwash before as a solvent, and although its definitely not recommended, it dissolved my Valium as it had PG in it.
Dave.  8)

Good plan, Dave, keep us posted and wishing you lots of luck!!   [...] 🍀🍀
Hi [...],
Today, I managed to go back to my 2.5mg timed doses at 10:30am and 6:30pm. I don't think I stabilised properly, plus I was drinking coffee (has to be decaf now).
At 2:30pm, I sweated a LOT and did have some pill cravings, but they went away in an hour.
I walked 6245 steps today, as I put my car in for a service.  :thumbsup:
I'm thinking of reducing my morning dose first, as this is how Dr. Peter Breggin weaned a client of his off 4mg Clonazepam (Klonopin). He reduced the evening dose last, because benzos have the sedative-hypnotic effect.
I was weaning the opposite way. Maybe stabilising on 5mg for 2 weeks from this updose is a way to go, and then reduce the morning dose first, rather than the evening dose.
My Propylene Glycol hasn't arrived just yet  :tickedoff: but I can't wait to get stuck in to using it for my (hopefully much smoother) taper.
Dave.  8)

Great job on all the steps  ;).  Remember, when tapering, slow and steady wins the horrible race.
Keep me posted on how you are doing  ;D.  [...] 💜
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[Buddie]

Re: Help! I updosed by 2.5mg tonight!
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2019, 02:53:55 pm »
Please be so careful updosing, it made me so much worse.

So pleased to read you have come back down again, these drugs are so harmful :(
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[Buddie]

Re: Help! I updosed by 2.5mg tonight!
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2019, 03:21:02 pm »
Can you elaborate what was wrong with the milk taper i tried pg and my stomach doesnt like it so i was planning to try whole milk
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[Buddie]

Re: Help! I updosed by 2.5mg tonight!
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2019, 02:03:51 am »
Can you elaborate what was wrong with the milk taper i tried pg and my stomach doesnt like it so i was planning to try whole milk
Hi [...],
I feel as though milk doesn't really dissolve the Valium all that well, and a lot of residue is left behind in the jars so you don't end up getting your full dose. I'm just trying Propylene Glycol to see how it goes.
Dave.  8)
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[Buddie]

Re: Help! I updosed by 2.5mg tonight!
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2019, 06:59:46 am »
Please be so careful updosing, it made me so much worse.

So pleased to read you have come back down again, these drugs are so harmful :(
Hi [...],
This is the first time I have updosed in a long time, and I never went past 7.5mg. I felt awful the next day, so I'm not doing it again. I think my 4% micro-taper was too quick. I don't think I stabilised at 5mg properly. I had body shivers all over, and could barely stand up.
I might go a 3% taper instead with PG.
Dave.
P.S. [...], how long do you recommend to stabilise on 5mg for? 2 weeks? A month?
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