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[Buddie]

Re: MSG Warning in other countries!
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2019, 06:23:50 pm »
WoW!  My head is spinning from that msg list.  Is there any country that bans the stuff?
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[Buddie]

Re: MSG Warning in other countries!
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2019, 07:35:35 pm »
Not to my knowledge. There's still an ongoing fight over whether it's toxic or not. Big Ag claims it's all in my head. So do a lot of Asians, who seem to use the majority of it. I've seen huge bags of the stuff for sale at Asian markets. Problem is, a lot of people are seemingly unaffected by it. Doesn't bother my husband a bit, for example, but it puts me under the bus.
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[Buddie]

Re: MSG Warning in other countries!
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2019, 07:37:30 pm »
I get really annoyed when I see articles on how MSG reactions are all in people's heads. That stuff messed me up before I quit taking benzos. I can't even imagine what it would be like ingesting it at this point. Probably wave central.

Yes, omg. I didn't know I was in benzo wd a couple of years ago when I moved to SE Asia, and was living in various places where they use it like salt, it was everywhere. It took me a couple of months to realize that the MSG was causing extreme symptoms and that I had to stay away from it. Wave central indeed. It sucks that they have started putting it back in the food supply in the US, it had all but vanished after the media scare some years ago.
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[Buddie]

Re: MSG Warning in other countries!
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2019, 07:47:14 pm »
I have a theory. Now I can't speak for most people, obviously, but when I eat something with MSG in it, I can't stop eating whatever it is til there is no more, even if I feel like I'm going to burst. Even when I'm way past full, I'm still craving the MSG laden foodstuff. I would be willing to bet money that the companies that produce food are aware of this phenomenon. See where I'm going with this? While I'm a capitalist, I know for a fact (as do the majority) that big corporations get up to some underhanded shit to keep their edge in the market. Including funding studies that show that MSG is supposedly harmless. *shrug* Big Pharm does it all the time, why should they be any different? After all, how did most of us end up on BB?

Before ya'll rag on me for eating foods with MSG in them when I know I'm sensitive, you can't always tell from reading the packages. Big Ag is sneaky that way.
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[Buddie]

Re: MSG Warning in other countries!
« Reply #14 on: June 06, 2019, 09:03:21 pm »
I have a theory. Now I can't speak for most people, obviously, but when I eat something with MSG in it, I can't stop eating whatever it is til there is no more, even if I feel like I'm going to burst. Even when I'm way past full, I'm still craving the MSG laden foodstuff. I would be willing to bet money that the companies that produce food are aware of this phenomenon. See where I'm going with this? While I'm a capitalist, I know for a fact (as do the majority) that big corporations get up to some underhanded shit to keep their edge in the market. Including funding studies that show that MSG is supposedly harmless. *shrug* Big Pharm does it all the time, why should they be any different? After all, how did most of us end up on BB?

Before ya'll rag on me for eating foods with MSG in them when I know I'm sensitive, you can't always tell from reading the packages. Big Ag is sneaky that way.

That is not a theory. They put it into dog food also. When I had my dog the first days, the shelter I had it from recommended a special brand. I gave it to her and that animal behaved like crazy. I stopped it then. From that point she got what a dog eats in nature. Meat. Fats. Vegetables that are already processed in the guts of the animals they eat.. and then - my dog recovered and with 14 years she still has all her teeth, nice fur and so on.. But I did not know about the effects of MSG until I watched dogs and asked what they were fed with...
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[Buddie]

Re: MSG Warning in other countries!
« Reply #15 on: June 06, 2019, 10:35:37 pm »
Oh, wow...did not know that. I'll have to check my pup's food. Thanks for the heads up! Our dog hates his kibble, even though it's fairly pricey. He only eats it when we haven't given him enough people food. Probably a good thing. I always give him the fatty scraps and  a bit of whatever else we're eating. Little guy loves almonds and other nuts. Go figure. Not hard to feed, as long as it isn't dog food or fruit.
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[Buddie]

Re: MSG Warning in other countries!
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2019, 07:27:21 pm »
I have a theory. Now I can't speak for most people, obviously, but when I eat something with MSG in it, I can't stop eating whatever it is til there is no more, even if I feel like I'm going to burst. Even when I'm way past full, I'm still craving the MSG laden foodstuff. I would be willing to bet money that the companies that produce food are aware of this phenomenon. See where I'm going with this? While I'm a capitalist, I know for a fact (as do the majority) that big corporations get up to some underhanded shit to keep their edge in the market. Including funding studies that show that MSG is supposedly harmless. *shrug* Big Pharm does it all the time, why should they be any different? After all, how did most of us end up on BB?

Before ya'll rag on me for eating foods with MSG in them when I know I'm sensitive, you can't always tell from reading the packages. Big Ag is sneaky that way.

Yes, this is actually true. I studied human nutrition and food science. MSG is used as a major flavor enhancer in the food science world, to say the least, it keeps us hooked and wanting more, as ordinary food can be very bland in comparison. MSG actually occurs naturally in some foods but in much lower quantities in things like broth (I can't tolerate beef bone broth I'm so sensitive). It stimulates the 'umami' or savory tastebuds, and since we aren't used to getting such high doses of it I would say that it probably stimulates cravings for this as well. I wonder what neurotransmitters it releases, that particular taste is known to be soothing and satiating. When I ingest it it's like I ate actual poison and it takes my body and nervous system weeks to recover. My GI system goes crazy, I get migraines, anxiety, waves galore.
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[Buddie]

Re: MSG Warning in other countries!
« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2019, 08:12:01 pm »
Oh, wow...did not know that. I'll have to check my pup's food. Thanks for the heads up! Our dog hates his kibble, even though it's fairly pricey. He only eats it when we haven't given him enough people food. Probably a good thing. I always give him the fatty scraps and  a bit of whatever else we're eating. Little guy loves almonds and other nuts. Go figure. Not hard to feed, as long as it isn't dog food or fruit.

You might also check the food (if it is coming out of a factory) of ingredients like wood and plastics which they are allowed to use as fillers.
As soon as I had done some research I stopped and started to barf her. Unbelievable.
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[Buddie]

Re: MSG Warning in other countries!
« Reply #18 on: June 08, 2019, 04:33:57 pm »
I totally spaced since memory is always spotty, to say that the reason MSG or even natural glutamate in foods triggers us is because most of our wd symptoms are probably due to the overabundance of the neurotransmitter glutamate in our bodies (due to downregulated GABA receptors, glutamate is opposite to GABA, the calming neurotransmitter). Glutamate is the excitatory neurotransmitter. Consuming it seems to rev up symptoms and this is probably why.

I like this article on it: https://chriskresser.com/beyond-msg-could-hidden-sources-of-glutamate-be-harming-your-health/

I'm so glad you posted this because it just became clear why all my seemingly random food sensitivities make me sick, they have for years!! It's really a relief to know why. I can't consume anything below with getting sxs, not to mention all the food additives and msg itself, just in case anyone has this issue I'll put this list from the article:

NATURAL SOURCES
      Foods matured, cured, or preserved, such as matured cheeses (Parmesan and Roquefort) and cured meats
      Fish sauce
      Soy sauce and soy protein
      Mushrooms
      Ripe tomatoes
      Broccoli
      Peas
      Walnuts
      Grape juice/ red grapes
      Bone broths and meats cooked for long times (generally using moist cooking methods such as braising)
      Malted barley used in breads and beer
      Wheat gluten
      Dairy casein
Gelatin and Collagen are also high and I was consuming a lot of this and bone broth on Paleo.
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[Buddie]

Re: MSG Warning in other countries!
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2019, 03:36:00 pm »
Thank you diana,   I need to avoid the additives whenever possible.  The natural sources are more difficult for me.  Brocc, peas and ripe tomatoes are growing in my garden.  Hopefully, my system will heal and Gaba can take care of business again! 
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