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[Buddie]

Constant fight or flight sensation in stomach??
« on: April 01, 2019, 10:08:40 pm »
Went to the dentist last week, was extremely anxious about it for a while. I had two fillings done with no numbing agent. It was a very syressful event, but by God's grace i made it through. But now I can not get my body to calm down. I have a constant nervous energy feeling in my stomach and my hands drip sweat. I am so anxious about these symptomss that it is a vicious cycle now and my long gone insomnia is starting to come back.
Please please, has anyone here had this stomach nervousness before that lasted all day for days. It feels like a thousand butterflies are in my stomach. I had this with insomnia for alittle bit back in November, but it has been gone for awhile. The thing is I have to get alot of work done on my teeth, i need this anxiety to settle down. I really think itwas the stress and anxiety about the dentist that triggered a wave. If you have had sometging stressful like this set off a wave like this, please respond. I really thought my constant anxiety days were behind me, i was doing so well.

Eliza
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[Buddie]

Re: Constant fight or flight sensation in stomach??
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2019, 10:51:55 pm »
Please is there anyone?
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[Buddie]

Re: Constant fight or flight sensation in stomach??
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2019, 01:02:58 am »
Hello?
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[Buddie]

Re: Constant fight or flight sensation in stomach??
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2019, 12:17:59 pm »
Hello Eliza:

I understand your anxiety very well. I also have needed a lot of dental work during tapering and post. My last intervention was two months ago when I needed a root canal. It was just awful and painful. Hopefully I wont' need any more work for awhile. My anxiety jumped a bit but nothing really major thank God. After I jumped I had the worst benzo belly that affected my GI system for six months. My gaba receptors in my gi system were probably so down regulated that I felt I was not going make it. Insomnia, stomach pain, and anxiety were up the roof. The vagus nerve is connected to the GI system and people who are prone to anxiety (I was diagnosed with GAD) will tend to have more GI issues than others. Regardless of this, just going to the dentist causes anxiety to anyone. I will guess that in your case going to the dentist triggered an underlying issue with anxiety so it is normal to feel this way. Don't panic! It will pass. What helped me a lot was to learn deep breathing exercises and guided meditation. I did take some supplements like Taurine, amino acids, 5htp, Valerian, Magnesium, Chamomile tea, essential oils; however I now recycle them and don't use them all at ounce. You have to be aware that all these affect the gaba receptors. I am 15 months off and I am doing okay no more GI issues. Through meditation and self-talk, eft techniques, qi Qong, tai chi, and yoga for the last three years (ever since my ordeal started) I have developed good skills to be able to control my emotions and feelings better. Most of the time now I can ride my anxiety without any aids. I had to cut on coffee and stop alcohol altogether. In addition I am following the Atkins diet and it has helped me tremendously in healing my stomach and anxiety. Also, during all this time I have become so much closer to God that I attribute my faith to my recovering and feeling normal for most of the time.
Good luck
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Re: Constant fight or flight sensation in stomach??
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2019, 12:30:52 pm »
I have the same thing going on to.  Iíve been off Klonopin for 9 years and was having no problems.  I had one panic attack recently my first one since withdrawal but I was sick and not resting and pushing myself to get to work.  Since then it feels like my central nervous system has been out of whack. My body is tense, my stomach is tight and I keep getting chemical releases in my body.I feel like if I could just get my CNS to calm down Iíd be ok.  Not sure why itís happening. My best guess is my body is remembering the trauma of withdrawal.  But Iím a vicious cycle too.  So yes I totally understand your anxiety. You will still have waves every once in a while as you near the end of withdrawal.  But your system will right itself again. Try to keep to your regular routine and do fun things. 
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[Buddie]

Re: Constant fight or flight sensation in stomach??
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2019, 11:30:54 am »
I have the same thing going on to.  Iíve been off Klonopin for 9 years and was having no problems.  I had one panic attack recently my first one since withdrawal but I was sick and not resting and pushing myself to get to work.  Since then it feels like my central nervous system has been out of whack. My body is tense, my stomach is tight and I keep getting chemical releases in my body.I feel like if I could just get my CNS to calm down Iíd be ok.  Not sure why itís happening. My best guess is my body is remembering the trauma of withdrawal.  But Iím a vicious cycle too.  So yes I totally understand your anxiety. You will still have waves every once in a while as you near the end of withdrawal.  But your system will right itself again. Try to keep to your regular routine and do fun things.
How long have you been like this. My system is still not quite right for a week now. Though the anxiety is alittle less, I sm still in some kind of fight or flight mode all the time. As soon as I think about it, my anxiety rush comes over me.
Is yours getting better now?
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Re: Constant fight or flight sensation in stomach??
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2019, 04:52:23 pm »
I have it in my chest.
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Re: Constant fight or flight sensation in stomach??
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2019, 12:06:54 am »
 :smitten:

Eliza -

Yes Yes I have had this.  I totally felt like I was the only one on the planet to experience this.  So what I finally did after a long period of not eating or sleeping well is got a massage.  The massage therapist talked to me about calming down in order for the cortisol levels to balance out.  He could tell I was all amped up all over my body.  Especially the stomach. 
Gently massage your stomach as well, this really helps a lot and maybe take an Epson salt bath and just do deep breathing for like an hour. 

Just know you will recover and get better from this.  Once our bodies get stuck in these viscous cycles it's hard to snap back, but very possible.

I rarely get on here anymore but this site is wonderful and literally saved me during one of the most difficult times in my life while tapering Klonopin. 

Good luck to you, and feel free to PM me if you like. 

Thanks,
Wolfie
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Re: Constant fight or flight sensation in stomach??
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2019, 12:44:40 am »
https://benzo.org.uk/manual/bzcha03.htm#24


 ďAnxiety persisting after the acute phase of withdrawal may be partly due to the uncovering of a learning defect caused by the benzodiazepines. These drugs specifically impair the learning of new skills, including stress-coping strategies. Such skills are normally acquired continuously from childhood to middle age or later as experience of life accumulates. Their development may be blocked for a period of years during which benzodiazepines are taken. After withdrawal the ex-user is left in a vulnerable state with a decreased ability to deal with stressful situations. Full recovery may require many months of learning new stress-coping strategies to replace the years when this facility was blanketed by pills.

Secondly, benzodiazepine withdrawal may uncover life problems that have never been fully addressed. For example, the impairment of memory caused by benzodiazepines may prevent the normal resolution of personal stresses such as bereavement or a car crash. Such buried or half-forgotten experiences may have to be faced after withdrawal and may prolong both anxiety and depression. It is not uncommon for a widow or widower, first prescribed benzodiazepines on the death of the spouse, to go through the grieving process for the first time after withdrawal, even though the bereavement had occurred many years previously.

A third factor may operate in people who have had frightening experiences during withdrawal. This is not uncommon in those who have undergone rapid withdrawal without adequate explanation, often in hospital or detoxification centres but sometimes at home when their doctor has withdrawn prescriptions. Such people may develop symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) in which their experiences are constantly repeated as flashbacks or nightmares and so prolong the anxiety.

In addition, many (though by no means all) long-term benzodiazepine users are constitutionally highly strung, sensitive people with relatively low self-esteem, whose anxiety problems have led to the prescription of benzodiazepines in the first place and whose continuing anxiety (possibly heightened by the benzodiazepines) has prompted the doctor to go on prescribing the drugs. It may take a long time for these people to regain, or attain, full confidence in themselves.

Despite these factors, protracted anxiety symptoms, including agoraphobia and panics, do tend to subside gradually and rarely last more than a year. The process may be hastened by good psychological support and by the measures described under acute anxiety symptoms. Believe it or not, people often feel more self-confident after withdrawal than they did before starting to take benzodiazepines.Ē
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[Buddie]

Re: Constant fight or flight sensation in stomach??
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2019, 05:50:19 am »
Eliza, why no numbing agent when you had the fillings?
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