Author Topic: Eggs in Withdrawal  (Read 1220 times)

[Buddie]

Re: Eggs in Withdrawal
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2019, 09:36:14 pm »
It's not the eggs.  The Banana has as much Sugar (a Stimulant) than a Candy Bar.  It's the banana.  Get all the sugar out of your diet as long as you are tapering off Valium.

   I eat eggs every day.  I did when I was tapering off 20 mg with no sxs.  I just went too fast on my taper, but now I am stabilizing and I eat eggs every day.  No problems.  I also do not touch SUGARS.  I avoid them all, I read every label.  Blueberries are okay, very low glycemic.  Otherwise, most fruits are high in sugar.  Just look it up.

    Benzos harm your adrenals and eggs help them to heal as well.

Bananas are perfectly fine. They donít ďhave as much sugar as a candy barĒ either. The nutritional value between a banana and a candy bar are not even comparable. Youíre talking to a person in benzo WD, not a diabetic. Stressing over everything you eat is a symptom in itself. There MAY be advantages in avoiding gluten, but thatís different for everyone and TBH itís way over blown. Eat bananas bro.
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[Buddie]

Re: Eggs in Withdrawal
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2019, 09:40:25 pm »
[...].

   I did the research and Bananas are full of sugar.  It can stimulate the nervous system.  It is not about diabetes at all, this is about the CNS being over stimulated and Sugar is a stimulant.  And apparently he is having problems and we all know it is NOT EGGS.  EGGS are NOT a stimulant. 

    And Sugar does stimulate my CNS and I am sensitive to it.   So when I removed these sugars, my CNS calmed down.  That is what he was talking about. 

    And No, I do not have diabetes, never did, very healthy in this area and I am very thin.  Which happens to most ppl coming off these drugs.

    Geez you got problems.
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[Buddie]

Re: Eggs in Withdrawal
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2019, 10:23:58 pm »
I couldn't eat eggs for well over a year after stopping Klonopin. Made my symptoms worse+gave me nausea and diarrhea. Now I can eat eggs once in 2 weeks or so.
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[Buddie]

Re: Eggs in Withdrawal
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2019, 10:25:14 pm »
I also had issues with bananas. I then learned that they have component that is a migraine trigger. I didn't eat any bananas for 18 months. Not at all, not even in anything cooked.
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[Buddie]

Re: Eggs in Withdrawal
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2019, 10:29:06 pm »
Very WISE.
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[Buddie]

Re: Eggs in Withdrawal
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2019, 08:11:55 am »
A doctor told me to eat eggs often to help my brain recover.  Eggs are good for the brain according to this article below too.

https://www.rd.com/health/conditions/best-brain-food/
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[Buddie]

Re: Eggs in Withdrawal
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2019, 08:09:15 pm »
[...].

   I did the research and Bananas are full of sugar.  It can stimulate the nervous system.  It is not about diabetes at all, this is about the CNS being over stimulated and Sugar is a stimulant.  And apparently he is having problems and we all know it is NOT EGGS.  EGGS are NOT a stimulant. 

    And Sugar does stimulate my CNS and I am sensitive to it.   So when I removed these sugars, my CNS calmed down.  That is what he was talking about. 

    And No, I do not have diabetes, never did, very healthy in this area and I am very thin.  Which happens to most ppl coming off these drugs.

    Geez you got problems.


I do have problems.  One that brightly sticks out is that I'm a type 1 diabetic and I have manually operated my endocrine system for 32 years.  Sugar can be stimulating, but more so it's the speed in which sugar is digested that is usually the problem - for those who have an issue with carbs/glucose anyway. For instance, honey, maple syrup, juice, candy... are all quickly digested - almost universally by everyone.  For me, I need to know what works fast for when my sugar goes low.  Banana's, for me, do not elevate my blood sugar as quickly as say an apple, pear, juice, syrup and many other things as it turns out. 

I know this quantitatively because I was moderately successful amateur boxer and I needed to know what works, and how fast it works, given the circumstances I may find myself in during a match in the event I needed to raise my BG quickly (1 minute in between rounds).

So in order to truly know what works for me, I did a glucose tolerance test with around 15 different foods/drinks that could potentially elevate my glucose.  I would test my glucose in the morning fasted, ingest said food, test 15 mins, 30 mins, 1 hour, 2 hours and track what my sugars where for each food.  I did this over months, a little maniacal but justified given the circumstance and situation.

That was my experience.  However I know several other diabetics, and a few nutrition coaches like myself who perform these same tests on themselves, as well as their clients, in the case that they feel the need to eliminate high glycemic foods.  To there amazement, the results actually varied very widely from person to person.  You might not believe this but it turns out that "everyone's different."    White rice for example would raise my glucose 15 points in a half hour but nearly 100 in 2 hours (all 50g carb portions) so the glycemic load was very high, but the glycemic index not so much.  However, for 2 of my clients, 50g of carbs raised their blood sugar 25 points in the first half hour and only 40 points at 1 hour, and back down to 10 points at 2 hours.  But no, tell me more about your research...

The point I'm trying to make is that everyone is different.  And adding more confusion to an already confused and F'd up topic like nutrition... to someone with an F'd up WD brain is the wrong direction.  I can literally site peer reviewed studies to strengthen any nutritional argument I feel like making... and find many articles all written by accomplished and prestigious individuals - all backed up by research - claiming vegan, carnivore, paleo, ketogenic, etc - is the best way to eat. 

The other thing you have to, or should, consider is some people can't afford to buy whole, organic, unprocessed foods... many have to rely on fast food or frankly whatever they can get their hands on, or afford.

The other thing you mentioned is that you are very thin, and people coming off these drugs are very thin (You're right.  I actually lost close to 20 pounds - not good - back up to 207 now though  :thumbsup:) yet your pushing to limit intake, especially carbs and fruits?  Inadvisable.

In hindsight I think I may have been a bit brash with my wording of my original post... I think partly, or mainly, because there is so much "you need to do this, or you need to eat this way in order to heal."  and it hit a button.  Maybe that or my daughter wouldn't put her shoes on for 20 mins this morning.. I dunno.   :o

Try and eat whole foods, exercise if you can, and rest/sleep as best as you can... and you'll heal eventually. 

ps: cut up bananas and almond butter is one of my favorite snacks  :smitten:
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[Buddie]

Re: Eggs in Withdrawal
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2019, 08:42:33 pm »
I am eating Complex Carbs.  And I am 70 years old and never had Diabetes.  Guess why?  I don't eat refined sugars that's why.

   If a person is not on Benzos, then fruits are fine.  But if ppl are tapering off benzos, the smallest amount of sugars and yes, even in FRUIT can stimulate the CNS which is not what we need while we are suffering with a myriad of sxs.

   So if that works for you, that's fine.  The person who was eating the banana did NOT HAVE DIABETES.  That person was having more excitability sxs and I told them it was not from EGGS which is isn't.  EGGS do not have sugar, Bananas do.

    Your argument is that YOU have diabetes and have to have the Banana.  That is fine if that works for you.  The person who had the question DID NOT HAVE DIABETES, I was answering that person's question NOT YOURS.

   GEEZ.
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[Buddie]

Re: Eggs in Withdrawal
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2019, 11:59:40 pm »
[...].

   I did the research and Bananas are full of sugar.  It can stimulate the nervous system.  It is not about diabetes at all, this is about the CNS being over stimulated and Sugar is a stimulant.  And apparently he is having problems and we all know it is NOT EGGS.  EGGS are NOT a stimulant. 

    And Sugar does stimulate my CNS and I am sensitive to it.   So when I removed these sugars, my CNS calmed down.  That is what he was talking about. 

    And No, I do not have diabetes, never did, very healthy in this area and I am very thin.  Which happens to most ppl coming off these drugs.

    Geez you got problems.


I do have problems.  One that brightly sticks out is that I'm a type 1 diabetic and I have manually operated my endocrine system for 32 years.  Sugar can be stimulating, but more so it's the speed in which sugar is digested that is usually the problem - for those who have an issue with carbs/glucose anyway. For instance, honey, maple syrup, juice, candy... are all quickly digested - almost universally by everyone.  For me, I need to know what works fast for when my sugar goes low.  Banana's, for me, do not elevate my blood sugar as quickly as say an apple, pear, juice, syrup and many other things as it turns out. 

I know this quantitatively because I was moderately successful amateur boxer and I needed to know what works, and how fast it works, given the circumstances I may find myself in during a match in the event I needed to raise my BG quickly (1 minute in between rounds).

So in order to truly know what works for me, I did a glucose tolerance test with around 15 different foods/drinks that could potentially elevate my glucose.  I would test my glucose in the morning fasted, ingest said food, test 15 mins, 30 mins, 1 hour, 2 hours and track what my sugars where for each food.  I did this over months, a little maniacal but justified given the circumstance and situation.

That was my experience.  However I know several other diabetics, and a few nutrition coaches like myself who perform these same tests on themselves, as well as their clients, in the case that they feel the need to eliminate high glycemic foods.  To there amazement, the results actually varied very widely from person to person.  You might not believe this but it turns out that "everyone's different."    White rice for example would raise my glucose 15 points in a half hour but nearly 100 in 2 hours (all 50g carb portions) so the glycemic load was very high, but the glycemic index not so much.  However, for 2 of my clients, 50g of carbs raised their blood sugar 25 points in the first half hour and only 40 points at 1 hour, and back down to 10 points at 2 hours.  But no, tell me more about your research...

The point I'm trying to make is that everyone is different.  And adding more confusion to an already confused and F'd up topic like nutrition... to someone with an F'd up WD brain is the wrong direction.  I can literally site peer reviewed studies to strengthen any nutritional argument I feel like making... and find many articles all written by accomplished and prestigious individuals - all backed up by research - claiming vegan, carnivore, paleo, ketogenic, etc - is the best way to eat. 

The other thing you have to, or should, consider is some people can't afford to buy whole, organic, unprocessed foods... many have to rely on fast food or frankly whatever they can get their hands on, or afford.

The other thing you mentioned is that you are very thin, and people coming off these drugs are very thin (You're right.  I actually lost close to 20 pounds - not good - back up to 207 now though  :thumbsup:) yet your pushing to limit intake, especially carbs and fruits?  Inadvisable.

In hindsight I think I may have been a bit brash with my wording of my original post... I think partly, or mainly, because there is so much "you need to do this, or you need to eat this way in order to heal."  and it hit a button.  Maybe that or my daughter wouldn't put her shoes on for 20 mins this morning.. I dunno.   :o

Try and eat whole foods, exercise if you can, and rest/sleep as best as you can... and you'll heal eventually. 

ps: cut up bananas and almond butter is one of my favorite snacks  :smitten:

Nice post and well written my friend. I learned a few things here.
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[Buddie]

Re: Eggs in Withdrawal
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2019, 09:48:49 pm »
Bananas and egg whites have something called histamine which tends to revv up symptoms for people in withdrawal
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