Author Topic: high b12  (Read 904 times)

[Buddie]

Re: high b12
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2019, 02:41:07 pm »
Thatís a methylation problem, you have plenty of serum  b12 but itís having a problem converting/methylating to actually get into your cells.  Find a functional Dr to help you decide what to do

This. I think he is right
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[Buddie]

Re: high b12
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2019, 10:00:14 pm »
The lab standards for B12 are very low. Many current books on B12 deficiency say that B12 levels should be much higher than lab standards. There have been documented cases of people measuring "normal" on a lab test, but suffering all kinds of B12 deficiency symptoms. The lab standards seem to have been developed to say that normal is anything that isn't pernicious anemia.

If you're having problems with absorption, then your B12 levels would typically be low. That is, it's not ultimately getting into your blood and then your cells. In other words, B12 goes straight out through your digestion system.

Also high serum levels in your blood could be from taking supplements. That doesn't mean you have high levels in your cells. There is another test which is sometimes more definitive than the standard B12 serum test: Methylmalonic Acid test (MMA). High levels in this test indicate low levels of B12.

A good book on B12 is by Sally Pacholok - "Could it be B12?"

Disclaimer: not giving medical advice here, but I was sure I had B12 deficiency before Benzo issues. I was vegan, over 50, and a competitive cyclist - all things that put you at high risk for deficiency. I did a lot of research and asked my doctor. I asked him to to do the MMA test (he had to look it up, as he had never heard of it). My tests came back normal, but I had started taking high doses of B12 when I first suspected I was deficient. By the time I was tested, it's likely I had corrected my condition (if it existed). It's interesting that many of the B12 symptoms mimic Benzo symptoms. They both profoundly affect your nervous system (and other systems as well: gut, brain fog, anxiety etc).
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[Buddie]

Re: high b12
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2019, 11:36:27 pm »
Reply to [...]      what if we take a b12 vitamin that is already methylated.  they have those you know?  methocobalimine or something like that. then, it would get into the blood not just serum, correct?
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[Buddie]

Re: high b12
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2019, 10:44:39 am »
Some people in the hypothyroid community have problems processing b12 and are recommended to take a small dose lithium with aids in b12 being absorbed by the body

Just need to add I am referring to the OTC lithium orotate - dosage only needs to be about 5mg
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[Buddie]

Re: high b12
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2019, 03:33:28 pm »
Reply to [...]      what if we take a b12 vitamin that is already methylated.  they have those you know?  methocobalimine or something like that. then, it would get into the blood not just serum, correct?

Itís a bit more complicated than that for some, but thatís the general idea. In other words, yes, but I wouldnít go blasting away with methylb12 yet. Seek out a functional Dr that works with this stuff and is familiar with methylation issues. 👍
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