Author Topic: Weak Mind  (Read 8851 times)

[Buddie]

Re: Weak Mind
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2010, 07:34:22 am »
[...],

I don't think anyone that ever got on a benzo realized the havoc they can cause when one hits tolerance.  At this point, you must up your dose, or decide to come off of your dose.  The further up in dose that you go, and the longer that you take a benzo, the more potential there is to damage your system and the harder it is to come off of these drugs.  Some people reach tolerance quicker than others...you may find until you reach this point..you may not care if you are on benzos or not.....I didn't realize the damage these medications did to the central nervous system..or I would have never taken one.....I wish someone would have told me about the long term consequences...

Another thing you have to consider is.....people on these drugs..can basically be cut off by their doctor...for no real reason..other than the doc doesn't think you should be on them....this can lead to really serious problems...such as seizures..and other long term difficulities..including....a really drawn out period of healing....

I am not trying to convince you to quit benzos....that is your choice..and no one should critcize you if you do quit or you decide that you do not want to quit....but....I just gave a couple reasons why these things are no good..I am sure we could come up with dozens more....:)

No matter what you decide I wish you well.....the best thing you can do is just educate yourself the best you can about the benzos..then make a decision....in the future...

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[Buddie]

Re: Weak Mind
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2010, 03:25:12 am »
kc, I agree not having control over your own thoughts is probably the worst thing.  I certainly hope if I taper off the med that it would stop happening.

[...], I hadn't heard that it damages the central nervous system.  I don't know.  I want to quit.  I'm hopefully going to try to very soon.  I mainly wanted to still be on the med when I go to a concert next week which I paid a lot of money for and wanted to be sure I can enjoy it without withdrawal crap.

By the way I am apparently going to be without insurance for 6 or 7 months possibly.  I do have enough of this med to last barely that long at this dosage rate.  However, see now I won't even be able to have a doctor help me through withdrawing because I would have to pay for the doctor visits.  Also my doctor said stay on it until I get a job, so I'm not sure whether to ignore him or not.

And I'm not sure I can withstand withdrawing.  It will be all these problems multiplied.  If I can't handle these thoughts now, how do I handle them even more frequently for months?

I hope if I get off of it that it eventually does have me controlling my own thinking and not feeling angry.  And I hope it will be quicker since I haven't taken more than 0.5 mg on any day.  I hope it is easier for it.  From what I read here it seems like everyone feels bad for a long time so then I think well what's the harm of raising the dose if I will suffer no more when withdrawing then?

I have never raised the dose in the several years on it, by the way.  And I had tolerance withdrawal a month or two ago.  Then I started taking two half doses instead of one whole dose and it fixed my tolerance.  I hope my brain can handle geting off of it.  :(
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[Buddie]

Re: Weak Mind
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2010, 04:18:54 am »
[...]...When I first became tolerant I raised my dose to escape these horrible symptoms it helped for a while and then I only became tolerant of the higher dose after a while and up it went again and again I increasingly became more and more tolerant, continually having to raise my dose and then becoming tolerant again, this really started to controll my life and I would take so much more then I was prescribed to escape the tolerance that I would run out of pills and get sick.I only urge you to be carefull if you're not going to be able to see a doctor for a while you could run into some serious problems...This has taken away 11 years of my life.I sincerely hope that you're not starting to get the same problems that I had...please be carefull and like [...] said learn as much as you can before you make any decisions about you're health...If only I had of known earlier  :'(
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[Buddie]

Re: Weak Mind
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2010, 06:19:57 am »
There's not much left to learn or any obvious answer though.  If I continue it people say there is more and more tolerance.  If I stop it they say there can be complications.  If I can't go to a doctor then I flat can't go so I'm stuck.

And now a lot of life problems are happening at once to give me anxiety from that.  My utility bill is higher than I think it should be despite me keeping the temperature in here WARM all day until I sleep.  It's much higher than other places the same size as mine because the utility site shows a graph comparison.  And the air conditioner is supposedly "working properly", but apparently just sucks.

Then I have other decisions which must be made soon which are tough ones.  I'm tired of dealing with all of this and if I had to have this stuff going on while withdrawing I don't know how I would handle it.  Everything is so confusing.
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Re: Weak Mind
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2010, 07:54:10 am »
It is confusing, I'm tyred of dealing with all this too, it seems theres no way around it and has gone on too long,it's depressing really. I find it's really hard to keep optimistic most of the time and I so often want to give up, but I have managed to not take anything for almost a week,mind you I think I'm going crazy. I can't imagine having to deal with allot of other things right now, but as sad as it is its good to know I'm not the only one dealing with these pestering thoughts.
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Re: Weak Mind
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2010, 10:05:33 am »
I hope you feel better soon.  All you can do is just hope you will I guess.  I'm sure most people were put on them for anxiety or panic so it sucks that after coming off of them there's now ay to know if you'll still have a lot of anxiety or not.  I know I have changed my thinking, but then again my brainw as so slow learning that it may not even retain anything and I may end up with the same old anxiety again.

I'm kind of panicky right this minute actually because of so many thngs bothering me at once.
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Re: Weak Mind
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2010, 02:24:37 pm »
[...],

Benzos really do affect the central nervous system greatly..which is why once a person reaches tolerance...they may then experience withdrawal...while still on the full dose of medication..at that point...you either updose to escape the withdrawal (this doesn't always work by the way) or you have to start tapering off....my biggest concern was that a doctor could say at any time...that he is cutting me off the meds....at that point...if you can't find someone to prescribe...if you are one any sort of dosage at all..you risk serious complications..including seizures if you cold turkey....

It is entirely your decision whether to come off of the medication...I just think that you should know all the risks...and benefits to the medication....before making a decision....I didn't have much experience at all with prescription medication....prior to Klonopin....but for me...these types of medication are pure evil....during my short time on this medication it certainly wreaked havoc on my life....I will be glad to free of this...with no worries of the med "turning on me".....in the future....for me..this just isn't the path to go....but I understand that some people do very well on these meds.....and some people don't even have problems coming off either....they seem to effect people in different ways....

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Re: Weak Mind
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2010, 09:44:49 pm »
Well I just flat don't know what to do anymore.  Feels like it's hopeless because any direction I go I feel empty and not consistently ok.  I feel happy a majority of time for maybe a week, but something always pulls me down again whether on or off emds I think.  And therapists have never helped very much.  I would have thought problems as common as family issues, fear of death, social issues would be especially easy for them to help with since everyone has them to some extent.  But apparently not easy for anyone I asked about it because alf the time they didn't say much.
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Re: Weak Mind
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2010, 10:22:47 pm »
Hi [...],
I know that all of this is very confusing right now. Tolerance from benzo's is very real and not all too pleasant at all.  I built up a tolerance almost immediately and now feel that I have lost the last 10 years of my life.  Unfortunately, I did not have the knowledge that I have now.  As for your decision to get off the benzo's now, well that is entirely up to you.  Don't be afraid to get off of them because long term you will be feeling better.  It sounds like you have alot of stressful things on your plate right now and perhaps you should wait a bit.  I know when I went into this, I was really mad and that motivated me. I went in with a "can do" attitude and I also made adjustments in my life to be as stress free as possible. I knew that I had to concentrate on getting better and that had to be my number 1 priority. Everything in my life has since been on the back burner. You may be one of the lucky ones who can get off this poision very easily. Regardless, when you do decide when the right time for you to get off of benzo's is just do it at your own pace/  in the meantime it is very helpful to realize that it is the benzo's that are causing some of the problems that you are experiencing. So, don't beat yourself up.  So much is chemically induced.  Well, I wish you the best of luck when you get off of this stuff.  I know you wil.      [...]
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Re: Weak Mind
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2010, 05:47:15 am »
Thanks for the well wishes.  Well today I took 1/4 less.  I guess technically most would say I should lower by 1/8, but since it's hard to cut the pills even remotely accurately less than fourths and I don't want to try any mixing with liquid or anything I don't know what else to do other than see how this goes for a little while.  I'm hoping it won't be worse than a few months ago when I was apparently having bad tolerance before splitting my dose into two doses.

It probably sounds like a lot to cut one fourth right off, but still it's only 0.125 less mg.  Since my overall dose of 0.5 is so small I'm just hoping somehow I'll be one of the lucky ones.  I do seem to be lucky/blessed in a lot of areas, so who knows.  All I can do is think positively and if it ends up feeling horrible I guess I've got to go back up again.  Also I thought maybe be cutting by more but then not cutting again as quickly as most do maybe that will counter it out and still be better off.
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