Seems like people are opting to go much lower than .025 to walk off Klonopin

My informal sense is that people are tapering much lower than .025mg K with DLMT.  Would you agree with that?  Is it because they CAN go lower with liquid? Or is it that the jump from .025 is too steep?

 

Please weigh in!

 

 

There is no therapeutic effect at .025.  Any "dependency" at that dose is psychological.

There is no therapeutic effect at .025. Any "dependency" at that dose is psychological. [citation needed]

 

There is no therapeutic effect at .025.  Any "dependency" at that dose is psychological.

Sorry, but I think that is misleading, dangerously so...

Lack of Therapeautic effect (if that is even right??) does not equate to lack of WD SX... IMO

Those of us (many of us here) that are very sensitive to these medications and have to slow taper to the very last know this..

My worry is that statments like this is what I got from a specialist, re. 1.5v... and here we are talking about a 5v equiv...!!

This could lead to confusion, doubt, reinstatment, or worse...

0.25v is not a step I would have wanted to miss out on...

 

Any citation would, IMO, have to also acknowledge the issues that bring most of us here... Im sure the pharma reps have many handy that are not worth the paper they are written on...

Asides there are other factors ie. medicine combinations or history that are prevalent here..

 

We dont all look back and say we probably could have jumped from 3v...

But we must also remember that there are many people that can stop these meds with little or even no real problems.. They just find no need to be here on BB...

 

Thanks..

 

 

 

 

There is no therapeutic effect at .025.  Any "dependency" at that dose is psychological.

Sorry, but I think that is misleading, dangerously so...

Lack of Therapeautic effect (if that is even right??) does not equate to lack of WD SX... IMO

Those of us (many of us here) that are very sensitive to these medications and have to slow taper to the very last know this..

My worry is that statments like this is what I got from a specialist, re. 1.5v... and here we are talking about a 5v equiv...!!

This could lead to confusion, doubt, reinstatment, or worse...

0.25v is not a step I would have wanted to miss out on...

 

Any citation would, IMO, have to also acknowledge the issues that bring most of us here... Im sure the pharma reps have many handy that are not worth the paper they are written on...

Asides there are other factors ie. medicine combinations or history that are prevalent here..

 

We dont all look back and say we probably could have jumped from 3v...

But we must also remember that there are many people that can stop these meds with little or even no real problems.. They just find no need to be here on BB...

 

Thanks..

 

I agree with Cantfly.  Therapeutic effect is very different from CNS recovery.  I was making .03 dry cuts before switching to DLMT.  Those cut and holds were pretty rough going.  Not the same as tapering .03 over a month.  In fact, if I remember your signature, builder, you were microtapering liquid v.  So when you jumped at the equivalent .5v, you still had 30 days of v in your system due to long half life.  Klonopin only gives us about 9 days.  Just saying...

 

There is no therapeutic effect at .025.  Any "dependency" at that dose is psychological.

Sorry, but I think that is misleading, dangerously so...

Lack of Therapeautic effect (if that is even right??) does not equate to lack of WD SX... IMO

Those of us (many of us here) that are very sensitive to these medications and have to slow taper to the very last know this..

My worry is that statments like this is what I got from a specialist, re. 1.5v... and here we are talking about a 5v equiv...!!

This could lead to confusion, doubt, reinstatment, or worse...

0.25v is not a step I would have wanted to miss out on...

 

Any citation would, IMO, have to also acknowledge the issues that bring most of us here... Im sure the pharma reps have many handy that are not worth the paper they are written on...

Asides there are other factors ie. medicine combinations or history that are prevalent here..

 

We dont all look back and say we probably could have jumped from 3v...

But we must also remember that there are many people that can stop these meds with little or even no real problems.. They just find no need to be here on BB...

 

Thanks..

 

Cantfly, I want to point out that I am talking about .025mg k, not .25mg k.

.025k is equivalent to .5mg v.

 

 

There is no therapeutic effect at .025.  Any "dependency" at that dose is psychological.

Sorry, but I think that is misleading, dangerously so...

Lack of Therapeautic effect (if that is even right??) does not equate to lack of WD SX... IMO

Those of us (many of us here) that are very sensitive to these medications and have to slow taper to the very last know this..

My worry is that statments like this is what I got from a specialist, re. 1.5v... and here we are talking about a 5v equiv...!!

This could lead to confusion, doubt, reinstatment, or worse...

0.25v is not a step I would have wanted to miss out on...

 

Any citation would, IMO, have to also acknowledge the issues that bring most of us here... Im sure the pharma reps have many handy that are not worth the paper they are written on...

Asides there are other factors ie. medicine combinations or history that are prevalent here..

 

We dont all look back and say we probably could have jumped from 3v...

But we must also remember that there are many people that can stop these meds with little or even no real problems.. They just find no need to be here on BB...

 

Thanks..

 

Cantfly, I want to point out that I am talking about .025mg k, not .25mg k.

.025k is equivalent to .5mg v.

Yes, Sorry, I just realised that... My Bad... Glad you picked it up... (the beauty of open discussion)..

It does change what I wrote a bit, But not the point so much, I think...??

 

-probs shouldnt post when i have the flu...

 

Ty..

 

 

There is no therapeutic effect at .025.  Any "dependency" at that dose is psychological.

Sorry, but I think that is misleading, dangerously so...

Lack of Therapeautic effect (if that is even right??) does not equate to lack of WD SX... IMO

Those of us (many of us here) that are very sensitive to these medications and have to slow taper to the very last know this..

My worry is that statments like this is what I got from a specialist, re. 1.5v... and here we are talking about a 5v equiv...!!

This could lead to confusion, doubt, reinstatment, or worse...

0.25v is not a step I would have wanted to miss out on...

 

Any citation would, IMO, have to also acknowledge the issues that bring most of us here... Im sure the pharma reps have many handy that are not worth the paper they are written on...

Asides there are other factors ie. medicine combinations or history that are prevalent here..

 

We dont all look back and say we probably could have jumped from 3v...

But we must also remember that there are many people that can stop these meds with little or even no real problems.. They just find no need to be here on BB...

 

Thanks..

 

Cantfly, I want to point out that I am talking about .025mg k, not .25mg k.

.025k is equivalent to .5mg v.

Yes, Sorry, I just realised that... My Bad... Glad you picked it up... (the beauty of open discussion)..

It does change what I wrote a bit, But not the point so much, I think...??

 

-probs shouldnt post when i have the flu...

 

Ty..

 

I agree, still a valid point

 

 

There is no therapeutic effect at .025.  Any "dependency" at that dose is psychological.

 

OK, then...

 

There is no physiological, medical effect at .025mg