Vodka Liquid Titration with 10mg Diazepam (Valium) Plan

I know all the information is out there but my anxiousness is making me double check. 

 

I am planing on doing a smooth liquid titration now, with vodka and water. I have got myself a 20ml oral syringe and I am going to buy a bottle of 40% vodka. I have 10mg Diazepam (Valium) tablets, I feel the need to state that they are not scored and are film-coated,  so do I need to crush them?

 

My plan

Get a gloss bottle/jar with at least 100ml storage. Buy 40% vodka. Crush 10mg Diazepam pill in bottle/jar, add 1ml of 40% vodka and wait 5 mins for it to dissolve. Then add 99ml of water to give a solution where 10ml = 1mg?

 

To those in the know, how does my plan sound?

Sounds like a good plan. 1ml is a very tiny amount of vodka; I tended to use more like 2 or 3 ml to dissolve a 10mg pill. The pill will dissolve without even needing to crush it first.

Excellent! I will use 2-3ml instead. Off to buy some vodka now. 

For each 1mg of V, use 2ml vodka.

 

So your procedure will be 10mg tablet + 20ml 80 proof vodka + 80 ml water.

For each 1mg of V, use 2ml vodka.

 

So your procedure will be 10mg tablet + 20ml 80 proof vodka + 80 ml water.

 

Oh wow, I have seen people say they used 1-3ml but I have also seen people say they use 20ml like you. Seems like a lot though because a vodka shot can be 25ml. I mean if I started tapering at 5mg, I would be consuming 10ml of vodka no? I mean it's not much but just want to double check that with you before I try it because I am all set othewise 

I really don't think you need 20ml vodka to dissolve a 10mg pill. It's easy enough to give it a try with just 2ml. My money is on "the pill dissolves"

The pill will almost certainly disintegrate/deconstruct.  That will even happen in plain water without any alcohol.  But that is NOT an indication of dissolution/dissolving.

 

There are some tables somewhere her on BB, constructed by BB SG57, that show the solubility of various benzos in alcohol/water solvents.  Using 80 proof vodka, diazepam  is just barely soluble in a 1mg per ml ratio.  1mg per 2ml is recommended as a more reliable ratio.

Maybe you are right, builder.

 

Anyway, my advice: In the words of the great Bob Marley, "Stir It Up!". (Well, maybe that song was talking about something else... ). If you produce your 100ml mix of mostly-water/some-vodka/Valium, stir it up to ensure the Valium is evenly mixed. Then measure, and drink up.

 

Cheers,

 

CP

 

Excellent advice guys and it all totally makes sense. I think I'm going to go with a 2-3ml mix and give it a proper stir. I'll report back if any issues pop up and will try the 2ml for every 1mg if needed. 

Only my second day on liquid tapering and I'm really feeling it. Unusual amount of withdrawal symptoms today. It almost feels like I didn't even take a dose last night.

 

Just to be clear, I have not made any cuts and am still on 5mg. I wanted to stay on same dose as I switched over, so it would be steady. It almost feels as if I've missed a dose.

 

Was this the case for you guys?

Only my second day on liquid tapering and I'm really feeling it. Unusual amount of withdrawal symptoms today. It almost feels like I didn't even take a dose last night.

 

Just to be clear, I have not made any cuts and am still on 5mg. I wanted to stay on same dose as I switched over, so it would be steady. It almost feels as if I've missed a dose.

 

Was this the case for you guys?

 

Yeah, that's what happened when I tried "water" titration.

I'm feeling a bit better today. It's hard to say whether it was a bad nights sleep that made things worse or the liquid taper. I've gone to crushing the pills and dissolving them in 5ml 40% vodka. Still not quite the 20ml you advise builder but we'll see how I get on.