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This is a segment by Dr. Sunil Aggarwal PhD. MD. Pain and Palliative Care Specialist and Cannabis Researcher talking about cannabis research and general musings. 

 

http://thesacredplant.ontraport.com/c/s/qIX/Syw7A/6/Te/VGb/6htKe8/66dArgBHW7/P/P/Jy

 

 

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Nice guy. He’s a facebook friend.

 

It’s my first time listening to him, he’s a very compelling speaker. This is a link I’d consider sending to friends and family in way of explaining why I’m a medical cannabis patient.  :thumbsup:

 

He's not a good speaker at all, not clear and detailed enough. If you want to learn about Cannabis listen to Scientist Dr. Jeffrey Hergenrather

 

I'v learned a lot from that man about Cannabis.

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I made an Indica Cannabis tincture for my muscle problems and titrated up to almost 40 drops and it didn't do anything except relax me and felt a bit stoned, i also vaped a high CBD no THC strain Cannatonic and it also did nothing for my muscles. I think Cannabis has been hyped.

 

Anyone know why this didnt work for me? I did a 1:1 tincture and vaped a high CBD strain and it did nothing to relax my tight muscles.

 

Do you know the exact dosage of tincture you took? It can be difficult to try and guess what isn't working without knowing.

 

If you take too much CBD, you can mute the effects of THC. I'd consider taking less CBD and more THC. I'd also consider trying a THC or THC/CBD topical you can apply directly to the affected areas. Taking a tincture gives you more of an overall rather than targeted effect.

 

CBD is considered a health and wellness supplement, so I don't expect much more from it than I get from the L-theanine, ashwaganda, melatonin and other supplements I take. It's a 'try it and see' kind of thing, and doesn't always produce noticeable or 'good enough' benefits to justify spending more money on it. I've been taking it regularly for about 5 years and honestly, I can't really tell you if it helps me, but I think it does, as much as those other things help me. I continue taking it because I know it's good for me and get a nice discount on it, being in the industry. It's not the amazing medicine that THC is for me.

 

What I do know for certain is THC has been helping me in multiple ways for over 26 years, physically, psychologically and spiritually. It might not pinpoint specific pain and ease it all the time, but it never fails to distract me and ease my mind and help me push through anything I may be experiencing, like so many of the symptoms I've had during this journey. One thing I think I have going for me is I've been smoking the same medicine, grown by the same people, for almost 5 years. I know exactly what I'm getting all the time.

 

Another consideration is there aren't just Sativa and Indica designations for strains, there are terpenes, or essential oils of the cannabis plant, to consider as well. They can influence the effects even more so than something just being labeled Sativa/Indica.

 

:) :) :)

 

Since my problem is a central nervous system problem a topical will do nothing. This will have to be taken internally so it works on the cannabinoid receptors. I paid attention to terpenes and the Cannabis 1:1 is half THC half CBD, this is most effective than THC or CBD alone. It doesn't work for my spasticity. I even Vaped a 1:1.

 

Sorry to hear you're having trouble finding something that works. Good luck!

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I made an Indica Cannabis tincture for my muscle problems and titrated up to almost 40 drops and it didn't do anything except relax me and felt a bit stoned, i also vaped a high CBD no THC strain Cannatonic and it also did nothing for my muscles. I think Cannabis has been hyped.

 

Anyone know why this didnt work for me? I did a 1:1 tincture and vaped a high CBD strain and it did nothing to relax my tight muscles.

 

 

I echo the disappointment Scooby. Have you tried combining methods using both the tincture and the vape together? I think that would be my next try, and when you can maybe try out a higher ratio thc product. I’d also try continuing to titrate up with the tincture since you have it. I’m guessing you don’t have an idea of what mg dosage equals 40 drops. Depending on the strength that may not at all be a large mg dosage. Have you used it consistently as soon as or before it wears off dosing several times a day to see if you experience a cumulative effect?

 

I have to think back and it’s a bit cloudy for me memory wise but I don’t believe I found a huge amount of muscle relaxation in my body until I consistently used cannabis for several months.  It did feel cumulative for me. Admittedly my head muscles are the least helped by cannabis unfortunately my most needed area of relief and I wish I had the answer as to why I can feel muscle relaxation everywhere else except in those hideously stubborn head muscles. They do eventually soften thankfully but it’s always taken a combination of methods for me to feel that softening. abcd made a good point and it’s something we’ve chatted about often,  and that is the ability for cannabis to accentuate sxs. At times I feel uncomfortable accenting rather than softening and this is one of those inexplicable things about cannabis I’ve noticed but overall the level of relief of my head is worth it to me for quality of life alone.  I generally need an overall higher mg dosage to achieve that softening so I allow myself that extra level of comfort whenever I can. Some things for you to consider Scooby but please don’t be too discouraged yet, ok?

 

I have tried a tincture and vaping, it didn't work and i might try again. I took the tincture once a day for a month and vaping i am trying 2x a day everyday also experimenting different strains. I will try some of the techniques you mentioned. Did you take Cannabis everyday to feel relief?.

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Hey thanks Scooby I finally listened to your link this afternoon. I hadn’t heard him speak before but I like his attention to detail. If you want to be totally blown away listen to Mara Gordon if you haven’t already discovered her. She is the future of cannabis medicine.  :thumbsup:  The first link the sound quality is admittedly poor, a lot of background noise due to the lecture setting. The other two links are in a more relaxed setting but equally worth a listen.

 

Medical Application of Cannabinoids and Terpenes for Chronic Illness

 

Cannabis Engineer Mara Gordon, Tell Us About Proper Dosing

 

Mara Gordon, Cannabis As Medicine

 

 

I use cannabis every few hours in some form every day. That’s the only way I get any kind of pain control. A combination of methods work for me. Oil infusions, vaping flower and or using oil cartridges and concentrates. I also use oils topically. I take  2.5 or 5 mg doses of both high thc and high cbd strains and basically alternate them throughout the day both vaping and oil infusions. This works for me but it took me a long long long time to figure it out. The oil cartridges and concentrates target my head pain best but I am less functional when I use them so that’s an end of the day medicine.

 

I wonder how you’d respond by experimenting with vaping a high thc concentrate once you’re more comfortable with using products and adjust to the feeling  since you don’t believe your body responds to cannabis but I don’t know your accessibility to concentrates or oil cartridges. Just a thought. That was my aha moment ( responding well to concentrates ) when I realized I needed to increase my daily dosage and usage if I were to get any significant consistent pain relief.

 

I started out quite slowly Scooby more than a little terrified of going up too fast. I  began to feel comfortable with how cannabis made me feel. As my body slowly and positively adapted to the plant and I felt less medicated rather than semi out of it I slowly continued to increase my usage and that’s basically how I slowly discovered the benefits of micro dosing.

 

Honestly I think you simply need to do a lot more experimenting.

 

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Agreed re Mara Gordon.  Fabulous!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I've listened to many speakers and lectures over the years but, indeed, I was blown away listening to Mara Gordon.  The work she's doing sounds absolutely phenomenal.  There's really something quite special about this plant, all the cancer success stories, who'd have ever believed it?

 

I wish cannabis made me just feel tipsy, I could handle that no problem. :P  Keep experimenting, Scooby, and hopefully you'll hit on something that works for you. 

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Saga23 Thanks for those informative links. I was thinking of using a very high THC strain about 17% -22% THC and mix it with a high CBD of equal percentage and vaping it. It might be more effective. I been vaping balanced strains from 8% THC and 10% CBD, maybe it's too mild. Do you know the percentags of your THC/CBD?. How long have you been using Cannabis and have you been using it everyday?.
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Oh good Scooby, I’m really glad you enjoyed listening to Mara Gordon. I know abcd is as blown away by her totally analytical approach to cannabis medicine and research as I am. Her work with cancer patients is incredible. She's a phenomenal woman oh how  I wish we all had access to her level of knowledge and analytics. 

 

Yes, I do think you may consider easing yourself into a higher ratio of thc. I found thc levels generally below 10% were not nearly enough thc, at least for me. Most of the strains I use now are right around the 20% range. I’ve been using medical cannabis a little over a year now. I was one of the first medical patients in my state and our product availability did not include flower tinctures or oil infusions for literally the first 6 months. It was a very tough start involving rationing and very limited product choices,  mostly vape cartridges and capsules. Thankfully that’s all changed and I’m extremely pleased with the dispensary selection. Now I can more easily even pick up a single gram of flower at a time to experiment with new strains.

 

Here are a few of my favorite daytime strains.

 

White Poison 21.15% thc 0% cbd.

Green Cush aka Green Crack 18.89% thc 0% cbd.

Kosher Tangie 19.78 thc 0% cbd

Cherry Diesel 18.86% thc 0% cbd

 

The cbd dominant strains I use have very different range of ratios and will obviously give different results so I dose accordingly. These are two strains I use frequently.

 

Harlequin 15.7 % cbd 7.8% thc

 

The Wife  18.31 % cbd 0.75% thc

 

 

I use both a high thc strain and a separate high cbd strain at the same time first thing in the morning as soon as I wake up.  I then tend to alternate primarily thc then cbd a few hours apart.

 

You could add a higher thc strain to the one you’re using now in equal parts with or without using the cbd strain to ease yourself gently into a higher range. Or you could use the higher strain alone. Or with the cbd combined or used an hour or so later.... multiple ways to experiment, you see?

 

When I began easing myself into using higher levels of thc I quickly found I didn’t need more than one or two 5 second draws of a .25 mg dosage of flower depending on the potency of the strain.

 

0.25 mgs of flower equals a 2.5 mg dosage, 0.50 in flower weight equals a 5 mg dose. So depending on how many draws you take you can semi accurately a single mg increment if you want that kind of precision as I do during the day. I do use a Gemini mg scale for precise weighing. This is a way to go up gently by very tiny increments. If at any time it's too much thc for you, you can also use extra cbd for more balance but maybe you simply need more thc its hard for anyone to say, you know? It’s one of those experiments I always talk about with cannabis but that’s the beauty of how well both thc and cbd work together for me.

 

I’d personally try all kinds of controlled experiments with the thc strains alone and or combined with the cbd and also try some alternate dosing of the thc then cbd in various hour intervals. Lots of options for you to explore Scooby! Sorry for the delay it takes me forever to compose posts like this.

 

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All I have is Nimbin Bud, But im hoping it will take the edge off my GI or OIBS issues as I taper the oxycontin.. Fingers crossed...

 

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Thank you Can't. I felt uncomfortably vulnerable for deliberately not explaining in my post why I pretty consistently micro dose throughout the day and also why I now start my dosing in the morning as soon as I get up. It sure didn’t sound good in retrospect. Funny you should then mention gi issues and Oxycontin ..........I’ll give some further detail. Gi issues.

 

I’ve thought of you often wondering if you had any interest in cannabis. I know you’ve been through a completely horrific experience, the scope of which none of us can truly appreciate. Nothing but the greatest respect and admiration from me for how you’ve carried that weight and your recovery.  Living in chronic pain long term is crippling and incredibly debilitating. I’d hoped to not ever be dependent on another medication but following my run in with Cipro two years ago it honestly became a matter of pure survival for me. This was not an easy choice to make, actually it was agonizing and yet necessary. It’s proved to be the correct choice for me and my history which includes a previous history of migraine although nothing remotely what I’m experiencing now in terms of head sxs and multiple concussions as well. Ultimately no other potential med could offer me the neuroprotective qualities of cannabis.

 

One of the reasons I’ve recently learned to dose as soon as I wake up is due to ongoing Gi issues. I've lost too much weight now. I cannot seem to keep weight on or keep food down easily. I can better keep food down now and help control my dry heaving saving myself hours of pure abject misery. I was reluctant to try dosing so early in the day but the benefit is now undeniable.

 

Trust me this is one sxs I got over more than a few years ago.  :-\

 

Whether my nausea is related to decades of opiates alone or the vast number other meds I rapidly discontinued or is attributed to my head sxs that intensified unbearably following the Cipro ear drops...well I may not find the cause but it truly helps me.

 

Cannabis would’ve been a godsend for me while tapering Oxycontin. I’d be sorely tempted to try the dinkum. Virtually every strain I've used has helped my gi system run more smoothly in general, no strain in particular that I’ve noticed, and for that reason alone I recommend it. I shockingly have no constipation ever now and only occasion bouts of ibs. I still have some bloating and rumbling but it’s vastly better overall. It did take some time meaning months before I saw slow changes for the better.

 

Honestly, I see now why cannabis is so helpful in managing many serious chronic health conditions. A hospice nurse asked me last night to expand on how it’s helped me specifically. She sees the benefit for their patients but also wanted my perspective. Before I gave her a more detailed run down I said this will sound crazy but I can sum it up in one sentence. It simply seems to make my brain and body work better together and they haven’t done so in a very long time.

 

Wishing you all the best in tapering the Oxy. I was only able to reduce in 10 mg increments but I was also tandem tapering Ativan. You are wise to seperate the tapers. I never knew which sxs came from reducing which med, incredibly useful information to have.

 

I also can't resist sharing another Mara Gordon interview. She's a bit more personal here sharing parts of her own story and how she began using cannabis.

 

https://kannaboomers.com/24-mara-gordon-medicinal-cannabis-pioneer/

 

 

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Thank you Can't. I felt uncomfortably vulnerable for deliberately not explaining in my post why I pretty consistently micro dose throughout the day and also why I now start my dosing in the morning as soon as I get up. It sure didn’t sound good in retrospect. Funny you should then mention gi issues and Oxycontin ..........I’ll give some further detail. Gi issues.

 

I’ve thought of you often wondering if you had any interest in cannabis. I know you’ve been through a completely horrific experience, the scope of which none of us can truly appreciate. Nothing but the greatest respect and admiration from me for how you’ve carried that weight and your recovery.  Living in chronic pain long term is crippling and incredibly debilitating. I’d hoped to not ever be dependent on another medication but following my run in with Cipro two years ago it honestly became a matter of pure survival for me. This was not an easy choice to make, actually it was agonizing and yet necessary. It’s proved to be the correct choice for me and my history which includes a previous history of migraine although nothing remotely what I’m experiencing now in terms of head sxs and multiple concussions as well. Ultimately no other potential med could offer me the neuroprotective qualities of cannabis.

 

One of the reasons I’ve recently learned to dose as soon as I wake up is due to ongoing Gi issues. I've lost too much weight now. I cannot seem to keep weight on or keep food down easily. I can better keep food down now and help control my dry heaving saving myself hours of pure abject misery. I was reluctant to try dosing so early in the day but the benefit is now undeniable.

 

Trust me this is one sxs I got over more than a few years ago.  :-\

 

Whether my nausea is related to decades of opiates alone or the vast number other meds I rapidly discontinued or is attributed to my head sxs that intensified unbearably following the Cipro ear drops...well I may not find the cause but it truly helps me.

 

Cannabis would’ve been a godsend for me while tapering Oxycontin. I’d be sorely tempted to try the dinkum. Virtually every strain I've used has helped my gi system run more smoothly in general, no strain in particular that I’ve noticed, and for that reason alone I recommend it. I shockingly have no constipation ever now and only occasion bouts of ibs. I still have some bloating and rumbling but it’s vastly better overall. It did take some time meaning months before I saw slow changes for the better.

 

Honestly, I see now why cannabis is so helpful in managing many serious chronic health conditions. A hospice nurse asked me last night to expand on how it’s helped me specifically. She sees the benefit for their patients but also wanted my perspective. Before I gave her a more detailed run down I said this will sound crazy but I can sum it up in one sentence. It simply seems to make my brain and body work better together and they haven’t done so in a very long time.

 

Wishing you all the best in tapering the Oxy. I was only able to reduce in 10 mg increments but I was also tandem tapering Ativan. You are wise to seperate the tapers. I never knew which sxs came from reducing which med, incredibly useful information to have.

 

I also can't resist sharing another Mara Gordon interview. She's a bit more personal here sharing parts of her own story and how she began using cannabis.

 

https://kannaboomers.com/24-mara-gordon-medicinal-cannabis-pioneer/

 

 

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Sorry Saga, I didnt see your reply... :(

 

It sure is a hell of a road..!! I think I got pretty lucky, all considered....

 

I find Indica much better than Sativa, which can rev me up a bit much and also bring on a mild dry headache at the best of times...

Thats about all the choice I get..  :(

 

Good to hear from you, another high dose Oxy buddy.. :(  Im sure we could chat for hours on some things..!!

I find my GI stuff a bit different to what you describe.. I have never had actual stomach problems, Its very much Small Intestine... Such a big topic it does my head in, but Im glad I skipped the nausia...

 

Stay strong... Its damn slow, but it is happening...!! :)

 

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I know what you mean about a subject being too big for your head. My story also began with injuries from a car accident many years ago....I wondered about our differences and or similarities in GI issues coming from high doses of Oxy. Wish we both could’ve avoided the whole Oxy experience, massive understatement....Can’t,  I’m happy you don’t have nausea but all GI dysfunction is miserable and I’m so sorry you’re suffering.  :hug:

 

I wasn’t sure if you were using cannabis, I hope you’re finding some relief even with the limited access.  I’m guessing you meant there’s little to no cbd to be found given the sources you’ve mentioned. Cbd has been incredibly helpful to me in calming down the unwanted effects of thc.

 

I may be the only one here who is a fan of sativa dominant strains. I had a bad experience with the first one I used probably because I didn’t know what I was doing and used too much.  I mostly stayed away from them until recently but they are honestly the most effective strains for my head and face pain. I’m fascinated by the differences in strains and how we all respond differently to them.

 

Wishing you much easier days.  :smitten:

 

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I know what you mean about a subject being too big for your head. My story also began with injuries from a car accident many years ago....I wondered about our differences and or similarities in GI issues coming from high doses of Oxy. Wish we both could’ve avoided the whole Oxy experience, massive understatement....Can’t,  I’m happy you don’t have nausea but all GI dysfunction is miserable and I’m so sorry you’re suffering.  :hug:

 

I wasn’t sure if you were using cannabis, I hope you’re finding some relief even with the limited access.  I’m guessing you meant there’s little to no cbd to be found given the sources you’ve mentioned. Cbd has been incredibly helpful to me in calming down the unwanted effects of thc.

 

I may be the only one here who is a fan of sativa dominant strains. I had a bad experience with the first one I used probably because I didn’t know what I was doing and used too much.  I mostly stayed away from them until recently but they are honestly the most effective strains for my head and face pain. I’m fascinated by the differences in strains and how we all respond differently to them.

 

Wishing you much easier days.  :smitten:

Sorry to hear you know the accident story too... :(

 

Antibiotics were just as significant (relativly) for me as the opiates, so I have been wondering about that too.. Meds, -the worlds biggest guessing game... :(

 

Im hoping our laws will change to follow others soon.. Even trials would be easy for me to access if suited... So I try to keep an eye on this thread to see if I can start connecting some dots...

I realy need to look at an organic source.. ;)

 

On a side note, I posted a little of my med story over the last two days on lhsg, if you wanted to read and comment if anything is of interest... PM is fine if you get to that point..

lol, it feels odd saying "read my posts"..!!

 

 

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Cbd has been incredibly helpful to me in calming down the unwanted effects of thc.

 

I may be the only one here who is a fan of sativa dominant strains. I had a bad experience with the first one I used probably because I didn’t know what I was doing and used too much.  I mostly stayed away from them until recently but they are honestly the most effective strains for my head and face pain. I’m fascinated by the differences in strains and how we all respond differently to them.

 

I've come to appreciate them for their energizing and depression/stress-relieving properties myself, and also have to be careful not to overmedicate. I regularly use CBD to compliment my Sativa use! We are indeed lucky to be able to choose our strains and know their THC percentages; we've had our strains tested for terpenes as well, an added bonus that's not yet a requirement in CO!

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I'm thrilled for you, NJstrength! My MMJ doc has been more helpful than any other doc I've seen during my journey. Not only did medical marijuana help me survive my taper and withdrawal, it's actually the reason I got off klonopin. (My pdoc failed to see my MMJ card in my file for YEARS, and when she finally did, she freaked out and cut me loose with 3 months' worth.) Now it's helping me with physical and mental symptoms left 11 months post-jump. It helps me with so many things. I added CBD and am pleased with it as well.

 

In many ways, I credit MMJ (and cannabis in general) for saving my life! It has been something of a miracle for me! I hope it works wonderfully for you!

Hi, I’m writing you because your signature says you’re med intolerant , as am I to many antidepressants. Wondering if you mind me asking you some questions?

 

You tolerated & were helped by Wellbutrin Sr for depression? What about anxiety?

Did Wellbutrin cause you any anxiety, insomnia, any other adverse effects while on it?

How did it help your depression?

Did you have withdrawal effects from stopping Wellbutrin?

Why did you take propanol?

 

If Wellbutrin helped, why did you stop it?

 

I’m not in an MJ state. You say the CBD oil helps you too? That’s legal everywhere right?

 

It looks like you did a pretty rapid taper from clonazapam?

Did/do you have withdrawal from doing so?

Thank you

 

I actually don't believe I was ever helped by wellbutrin; I merely tolerated it because they made me think I needed to take an antidepressant and that was the only one that didn't give me completely unacceptable side effects at first. I later found out it's known to ramp up anxiety and think it did that to me unknowingly. I stopped taking it because I don't think it ever helped me and I wanted off all psych meds forever. I'm doing just fine without it. I'm sure my withdrawal was worse from stopping klonopin and wellbutrin simultaneously. I couldn't wait to get off both of them, so I just did it.

 

They added propranolol to help keep me from updosing the klonopin. When I went to the doc last November, they said my BP was "awesome," mostly because I started eating healthy and taking cardio kickboxing classes 4 months into my taper, and to stop taking it. I should never have been prescribed it in the first place. I have asthma and it's a TERRIBLE beta blocker to prescribe to asthma patients. No wonder I couldn't breathe. And people wonder why I have so much trouble trusting doctors.  ::)

 

I actually executed a VERY LONG taper. It was 13 months long. That's not rapid by any means. I had acute withdrawal symptoms for 3 months, then it let up a little. I'm now just over 11 months off and symptoms are becoming manageable. My worst one is anxiety, which I had before benzos, and expect to still have if I don't learn good coping and stress-busting skills, which I'm working on.

 

Yes, CBD can definitely be helpful. It's a much more subtle benefit than THC for me, but it helps me stay focused and less anxious during the day. I work in a dispensary, so it's more accessible and affordable for me. You can buy it online, but beware of poor quality. I recommend www.cwhemp.com.

 

I have read here https://www.ncsm.nl/english/cbd-oil/asthma that CBD oil works fine for asthma sufferers. I am continuing doing my research on this issues and I have found some interesting facts about cbd oil and asthma. Google!

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New to this group and wondering if there has been a discussion about use of MJ for sleep and whether it slows down the healing of the GABA receptors?  ?  At the moment sleep is my worst symptom- Believe I can handle everything else if I could just get some sleep-  Lucky that I live in a state where marijuana is legal- I do have my medical card- my doc (Harvard & Harvard Med School) is probably one to the few docs in the country who has done any research-  He tells me that it doesn't matter whether it's indica or sativa as long as the THC level is around 15- not much higher- He really doesn't know much about how it effects GABA & benzo withdrawal-  I have tried so many different strains- None seems to be helping right now-  I wouldn't want to use it if it's counterproductive but I desparately need something to slow down my brain in the middle of the night-  Are there suggestions for strains that help with sleep?  I've tried going through some of the pages of responses in this group and haven't found much-

Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated- Need my zzzzz- 😩 🙏

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Just curious if there are any strains people are finding are the most helpful for tapering/wd. I just started smoking again and it's helping a lot. Long time stoner.
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Hi

New to group. Would like to ask same question as Diana.

I have all sx’s on “the list”.

I’m looking for a strain that helps with body pain, headache, nausea, but also something that doesn’t ramp up anxiety but calms it as that is one of my worst symptoms. I tried some street pot that sent me into a very long panic attack.

I live in a legal state, but not easy to get a card. But have people that can buy something for me.  Have smoked over the years, but haven’t  been able to tolerate anything for the last couple. And I really know nothing about the different strains, and am way too foggy to understand the research I’ve been attempting.

 

Suggestions appreciated if you can help a desperate gal out.

Please and thank you. Lil xx

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New to this group and wondering if there has been a discussion about use of MJ for sleep and whether it slows down the healing of the GABA receptors?  ?  At the moment sleep is my worst symptom- Believe I can handle everything else if I could just get some sleep-  Lucky that I live in a state where marijuana is legal- I do have my medical card- my doc (Harvard & Harvard Med School) is probably one to the few docs in the country who has done any research-  He tells me that it doesn't matter whether it's indica or sativa as long as the THC level is around 15- not much higher- He really doesn't know much about how it effects GABA & benzo withdrawal-  I have tried so many different strains- None seems to be helping right now-  I wouldn't want to use it if it's counterproductive but I desparately need something to slow down my brain in the middle of the night-  Are there suggestions for strains that help with sleep?  I've tried going through some of the pages of responses in this group and haven't found much-

Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated- Need my zzzzz- 😩 🙏

 

It very much matters whether you smoke Sativa or Indica. I would never use a Sativa too late in the day or for sleep. I have to be very careful with Sativas because they're much more likely to exacerbate my anxiety than Indicas. If you're getting good medical cannabis, the THC percentages may all be higher than 15%. I work in a dispensary and don't think we have any strains under 16%; most of ours are around 18-25%.

 

I'm not a medical professional, but do suggest being very careful with Sativas, high THC percentages and accidentally overmedicating, especially while sensitive and healing. If you have access to CBD, it can dull the negative effects of THC. When I use a Sativa to relieve depression or clean the house, I take CBD with it for more balanced effects. I'd stick to Indicas and Indica-dominant Hybrids for now.

 

The strains we carry that are good for sleep are Grape God Bud, OG Kush, Jawa Kush, Bubba Kush, Gorilla Glue, Crazy Glue...all Indicas. Your area will probably have different strains.

 

Edibles have been my saving grace for sleep throughout this journey. I usually only eat Indica edibles, although I'll take a hybrid edi if I have to. If I take enough milligrams, I'll even basically stay asleep all night. I just have to make decisions on how high I want to let my tolerance get, and how much of my budget I want to dedicate to them.

 

Check out this article, and definitely use www.leafly.com to find strains that help with sleep!

 

https://www.leafly.com/news/strains-products/the-best-cannabis-strains-for-insomnia

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Just curious if there are any strains people are finding are the most helpful for tapering/wd. I just started smoking again and it's helping a lot. Long time stoner.

 

I've been smoking a lot of Mimosa and Jack Flash lately, but that's what's currently available at my dispo; your strains will probably differ.

 

I can say I'd probably stick to Indicas and Indica-dominant hybrids while in the earlier stages of healing. I've been able to slowly and carefully add Sativas back in, but always with CBD, and because I've been regularly partaking a long time as well...27 years.

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Hi

New to group. Would like to ask same question as Diana.

I have all sx’s on “the list”.

I’m looking for a strain that helps with body pain, headache, nausea, but also something that doesn’t ramp up anxiety but calms it as that is one of my worst symptoms. I tried some street pot that sent me into a very long panic attack.

I live in a legal state, but not easy to get a card. But have people that can buy something for me.  Have smoked over the years, but haven’t  been able to tolerate anything for the last couple. And I really know nothing about the different strains, and am way too foggy to understand the research I’ve been attempting.

 

Suggestions appreciated if you can help a desperate gal out.

Please and thank you. Lil xx

 

Check this out, Lil. You can look up strains by symptom.

 

https://www.leafly.com/start-exploring

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Just curious if there are any strains people are finding are the most helpful for tapering/wd. I just started smoking again and it's helping a lot. Long time stoner.

 

I've been smoking a lot of Mimosa and Jack Flash lately, but that's what's currently available at my dispo; your strains will probably differ.

 

I can say I'd probably stick to Indicas and Indica-dominant hybrids while in the earlier stages of healing. I've been able to slowly and carefully add Sativas back in, but always with CBD, and because I've been regularly partaking a long time as well...27 years.

 

Just kidding, it threw me back into acute and now I'm super sick and having migraines out of no where. I feel like I drank a gallon of liquor and smoked 100 cigarettes and I've maybe smoked 1/2 g of various indica over three or four days. I guess it's too soon. CBD drops made it worse. My CNS is just done with cannabis which makes me sad. I needed the mood lift... :-\

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Diana

That sucks. Now I’m a little nervous to try. I know it works different for everybody, but I’m trying to get rid of killer migraines. MJ was a miracle cure for everything pre benzo wd. Last time I smoked, it made me super sick too. Well, I was super sick, but made it worse. Didn’t think that was possible, but I had panic attack and ramped up all symptoms.  Lil

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Diana

That sucks. Now I’m a little nervous to try. I know it works different for everybody, but I’m trying to get rid of killer migraines. MJ was a miracle cure for everything pre benzo wd. Last time I smoked, it made me super sick too. Well, I was super sick, but made it worse. Didn’t think that was possible, but I had panic attack and ramped up all symptoms.  Lil

 

Yah, same. Last time I used it was after a forced CT and it was bad. I thought I'd try again. Only one way to find out, and the short term euphoria and relaxation were nice. I'm flat lining, emotionally, at this point.

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