Author Topic: Medical Cannabis and Cannabis CBD Oil Group  (Read 185426 times)

[Buddie]

Re: Medical Cannabis and Cannabis CBD Oil Group
« Reply #3460 on: August 20, 2021, 11:40:04 pm »
Has anyone been using delta 8? I got some gummies at the local smoke shop and I couldnít believe it completely got rid of my RLS, neuropathy in my feet and insomnia.  CBD did nothing for me.
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[Buddie]

Re: Medical Cannabis and Cannabis CBD Oil Group
« Reply #3461 on: August 21, 2021, 03:52:45 am »
I've heard good things about Delta 8, scrabble. I'm glad it helped you. I might look into it myself! I have a foot neuropathy and RLS . . . and I'm sure my insomnia could use some help.

Thanks for the report.

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[Buddie]

Re: Medical Cannabis and Cannabis CBD Oil Group
« Reply #3462 on: September 17, 2021, 12:22:34 pm »
Here's my PM to another member who asked about using CBD for intrusive thoughts (slightly edited). I get a little "factual" in the discourse; some are proven fact with references out there all [...] the web, some are from discussions with an expensive cannabis doctor, and some are from extensive personal experience.

"Apply salt to taste."  ;) ...

I've taken as much as 500mg/day of CBD, but only at a time when my body was flooded with THC. I don't recommend anything like this. From what I've read and experienced, cannabinoids in general typically stay in the body for around 30 days (hence why this is the minimum suggested abstinence period before a drug test; remember those days?). Anyways, because of this 30 day lingering period, it's like benzos in that cannabinoids have a half-life; so daily doses have a way of layering on top of previous doses, and getting stronger up to around the 30 day mark. Not understanding this behavior and timeline is how I managed to overdose first THC and then months later on CBD, both by prescription and both despite extreme caution; I have no substance abuse tendencies.

So yes, CBD will build up in your body, probably for around 30 days, getting stronger by the day. Yes, you can take doses that will be felt immediately, what I'd call an acute dose, and these can be very large and relatively safe. BUT I do not suggest using an acute dosage range for long-term daily dosing; this is how I went wrong. If you take acute doses and you feel exactly what you want to feel in terms of relief (it is generally safe to gradually work up in dose to find if this exists for you with CBD), then I suggest backing off from this dose. You can back off slowly, if you really need the continued support, but I suggest carefully lowering your dose every single day if you start on a large and effective dose. Basically, your optimal dose will get lower and lower as the doses stack and I suggest chasing this ever-lowering optimal dose very diligently, because with cannabinoids more is NOT better.

Cannabinoids, including CBD, are bi-phasic. They all have negative side-effects (no matter what the marketing says) and these outweigh their benefits past this "optimal dose". What an optimal dose is varies from person to person, but after a while of daily dosing it can end up being quite low. My optimal daily dose for CBD alone is fractions of a milligram; I [...] don't generally need help with intrusive thoughts, and doses [...] this amount will cause me to feel manic. But if I'm withdrawing from a benzo too quickly, or I'm dosing THC, then my optimal dose of CBD could be much higher, depending on the other conditions.

I don't like capsules. I made my own for a while, when I was literally brain-dumb, and it took me [...] a week to realize I got all the same benefits with more flexibility using a dropper and an oil-tincture. I suggest getting an oil-tincture, and ideally one with markings on the dropper that show 1ml and 3/4ml and so on. Then I suggest counting the drops in 1ml, comparing this to the bottles information about how many mg of CBD are in one ml (or divide the bottle total milligrams by the total bottle ml), and this will tell you how many milligrams of CBD are in each drop. I dose by the drop, and bottles rarely have accurate information on how much is in each drop.

There's a whole world to diluting these cannabinoids (I use MCT oil), there's also a whole world to understanding "full spectrum" contents, such as terpenes, CBG, CBN, THC, and so on. I will say as a last thing that a little THC, especially on the long term, can be helpful in balancing CBD out. Might not matter to you right now, but if you follow my suggestions and eventually find a low optimal dose of CBD and want to use that for a long time, I suggest trying a product with that federally allowed dose of <0.3% THC in there for comparison. Even more THC than this might be a better balance on the long term.

In my experience CBD alone has [...] me feeling brittle, unemotional, and [...]-analytical. Mental and manic. A little bit of this is a really good thing when my thoughts are too mushy, such as would cause intrusive thoughts. But too much of this and I get headaches, increased whole body pain, emotional unavailability and other problems. You'll no doubt find what it does for you, and I suggest monitoring the effects mindfully. It is a psyche medication, after all.

So, again, I find oil-tinctures easier to control the dose than capsules. I think it's safe to slowly titrate up until you find the effects you need; but remember to titrate down in dosage if you're using it daily. You could dose every 1-3 hours if needed. I dosed every single hour, 24 hours a day for maybe a week when I was very sick, then moved to every 2 hours, then every 3 and stayed at every 3 hours for months. I [...] that my optimal dose went from 500mg/day to 5mg/day by around the second month of use, and my expensive cannabis doctor told me to take more and more to combat the symptoms which were being caused in large part from a CBD overdose; try not to make my mistake!

If you have capsules, I suggest breaking the capsules in your mouth and letting the contents (which I assume are an oil-based liquid) soak into your mucus membranes in the mouth for 1-5 minutes before swallowing. I also suggest doing this mouth-hold with an oil-tincture if you get one. I was taught to take doses with a high-fat meal, but I've not noticed that makes a huge difference; the mouth-hold technique though DOES make a huge difference, in my experience.

I [...] this helps someone.  :thumbsup:

[...],

This topic is definitely your speciality!
Can I get your opinion on this product.
https://www.downtoearth.green/shop/oils/isolate-cbd/iso-1000/

I have tried this before but I was polydrugged at the time so I couldnít tell if it was helping or not.
I have tried medical marijuana dr prescribed and it was horrible, heart racing, increased anxiety etc.
I have also tried CBD & tiny amount THC I had increased symptoms. I know you recommend THC <0.3%. Iím looking to reduce my withdrawal symptoms: Akathesia, body movements, panic, anxiety, heart racing, [...] upset, tinnitus, insomnia, intrusive thoughts, SI., DR/DP.... the list goes on but they are my main ones!

Iíd [...] to know your thoughts on this product CBD isolate. Please help me understand what Iím taking.

Thank you

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[Buddie]

Re: Medical Cannabis and Cannabis CBD Oil Group
« Reply #3463 on: September 17, 2021, 10:45:56 pm »
CBD does zero for me . I dont know if it is because it took so much indica to get me down off 8 mgs of [...] [...] 5 years or what .. but finally 2.5 years out in [...] of this year , I started microdosing 5 mgs of indica THC only with 1-2 mgs of cbn nightly in a gummy  to be able to sleep . My sleep never came back and I have to work and be functional and the ideations were very bad the less sleep I got .

 I never had this problem before the benzos  so far I have not had to updose nor have I hit tolerance but I do switch products every month . I got more than a few recommendations to do that from several sources . I had to do something . I am glad several in here helped me get [...] my fear to go back to MM because it has helped . The insomnia had [...] really worn me down at 58 .
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[Buddie]

Re: Medical Cannabis and Cannabis CBD Oil Group
« Reply #3464 on: September 17, 2021, 11:14:11 pm »
[...],
CBD, THC and related products are so complex. There are so many products on offer and you [...] never know how you are going to react.
Iím glad you found something that helps you and you mentioned changing products is key.

I [...] in Australia. CBD is really limited and usually only through a dr and itís expensive.
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