Author Topic: ADRENAL FATIGUE, ME, CFS SUPPORT GROUP  (Read 8893 times)

[Buddie]

Re: ADRENAL FATIGUE, ME, CFS SUPPORT GROUP
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2016, 01:38:26 am »
I have found that diet is extremely important during withdrawal. I may be in a minority in that I have food intolerances, some of them pre-benzo. I thought I was eating a healthy diet by adding in kefir and yogurt but it pushed me into histamine intolerance last November--I am not sure if this was due to withdrawal and gut GABA receptors deing down regulated.
I also have to really watch how many carbs I eat because of blood sugar issues--this may be because of adrenal fatigue which I know I have.
I eat very few fruits--some berries since they are lower in sugar. I also eat green bananas on occasion mainly for the potassium. I really avoid eating sugar.
I eat a lot of organic meats--chicken, turkey, and grass fed beef. I also eat at least one big salad every day along with a lot of vegetables. I try to limit carbs to complex carbs like quinoa, gluten free steel cut oats, and sweet potatoes. Sometimes I give in and have a gluten free bagel since I am hungry a lot. I eat 5-6 meals a day to keep my blood sugar as even as possible.
I do not eat anything with caffeine in it since it revs me up so bad still after 2 years. Also no alcohol.
Figuring out what I should be eating has taken me a while and I get really frustrated that I have to eat a really strict diet. I am hoping that when I am healed that I am able to add some foods back in.
I do not eat gluten because I have Hashimoto's and I don't eat dairy because of casein intolerance.

I also walk every day, meditate, sometimes take bubble baths before bed, do adrenal breathing, really try to keep positive thoughts in my mind. I also take a few of the recommended vitamins/minerals for adrenal fatigue--vitamin C, E, magnesium. I need to go back to taking pantothenic acid, a B vitamin. I am just wary of taking a B vitamin alone since they are all needed together in balanced amounts. Most forms of B12 and folate rev me way up.

This may be of interest to those with leaky gut. My functional med doc suggested that I use resistant starch to increase butyrate producing gut bacteria. Butyrate is a short chain fatty acid that helps reduce inflammation and helps seal up a leaky gut. You can get extra resistant starch by mixing banana flour, plantain flour, or potato starch in water. I have found banana flour works best for me. There is a lot of resistant starch info on the internet so I won't get too detailed about it.
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[Buddie]

Re: ADRENAL FATIGUE, ME, CFS SUPPORT GROUP
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2016, 01:42:35 am »
Basically looking here to devise a plan to avoid low blood sugar, foods that give us a slow release of energy throughout the day and yet keep glutamate levels low whilst avoiding anything which may impede the healing process, I am not looking for any kind of detox diet here, just the opposite, when in withdrawal, we should not consume cruciferous vegetables if tapering Diazepam and these vegetables can speed up the clearance of the drug which obviously is not a good thing, hence why green smoothies are termed as "detox smoothies", these are fine for those that are off the drugs but these should generally be avoided whilst in the tapering process, I have read science papers on this myself so as a rule I avoid broccoli, cabbage and spinach and sprouts.

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[Buddie]

Re: ADRENAL FATIGUE, ME, CFS SUPPORT GROUP
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2016, 01:51:25 am »
I have found that diet is extremely important during withdrawal. I may be in a minority in that I have food intolerances, some of them pre-benzo. I thought I was eating a healthy diet by adding in kefir and yogurt but it pushed me into histamine intolerance last November--I am not sure if this was due to withdrawal and gut GABA receptors deing down regulated.
I also have to really watch how many carbs I eat because of blood sugar issues--this may be because of adrenal fatigue which I know I have.
I eat very few fruits--some berries since they are lower in sugar. I also eat green bananas on occasion mainly for the potassium. I really avoid eating sugar.
I eat a lot of organic meats--chicken, turkey, and grass fed beef. I also eat at least one big salad every day along with a lot of vegetables. I try to limit carbs to complex carbs like quinoa, gluten free steel cut oats, and sweet potatoes. Sometimes I give in and have a gluten free bagel since I am hungry a lot. I eat 5-6 meals a day to keep my blood sugar as even as possible.
I do not eat anything with caffeine in it since it revs me up so bad still after 2 years. Also no alcohol.
Figuring out what I should be eating has taken me a while and I get really frustrated that I have to eat a really strict diet. I am hoping that when I am healed that I am able to add some foods back in.
I do not eat gluten because I have Hashimoto's and I don't eat dairy because of casein intolerance.

I also walk every day, meditate, sometimes take bubble baths before bed, do adrenal breathing, really try to keep positive thoughts in my mind. I also take a few of the recommended vitamins/minerals for adrenal fatigue--vitamin C, E, magnesium. I need to go back to taking pantothenic acid, a B vitamin. I am just wary of taking a B vitamin alone since they are all needed together in balanced amounts. Most forms of B12 and folate rev me way up.

Sounds like a good diet you have going there Bluemoon.  :thumbsup:

Thanks for sharing.

I will add that from this adrenal fatigue book I am reading BANANAS are apparently not good, high pottasium foods in adrenal fatigue are a no no, just something to think about.

Also, TURKEY is pretty high in GLUTAMATE, chicken is probably the better bet there but of course, personal choice.

You're diet is pretty strict but I would say this is a great diet for healing, if it works for you then great, I am putting my own diet together this week and yeah, it will be pretty strict also but when it comes to health, we gotta do what we gotta do, even when I feel OK, I can no longer ignore the fact that I will be in this for some time, so I figure that what I eat now will hopefully help me further down this road in terms of healing, no more messing for me, I am committing to this again 100%, it may often feel like food doesn't touch the withdrawals but given what we go through, I can't see any other time when diet isn't as important as it is right now.

We need to help our bodies as much as possible in this process.

I am looking forward to getting started again.
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[Buddie]

Re: ADRENAL FATIGUE, ME, CFS SUPPORT GROUP
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2016, 02:02:11 am »

MY LIST OF SAFE FOODS SO FAR:

EGGS
POTATOES
SWEET POTATOES
BROWN RICE
QUINOA (OCCASIONAL)
CHICKEN
LAMB
BEEF (OCCASIONAL)
FISH (SALMON ETC)
BLUEBERRIES
RASPBERRIES
CHERRIES
PEARS
PLUMS
APPLES (RAW AND STEWED)
LETTUCE
RED PEPPERS
GREEN PEPPERS
YELLOW PEPPERS
CARROTS
GREEN BEANS
SWEDE
PUMPKIN
ONIONS
GARLIC
ASPARAGUS
AVOCADO
OATS (GLUTEN FREE)
OLIVE OIL
SESAME OIL
NATURAL YOGHURT (UNSWEETENED)
WATER
LEMON (ALKALIZES THE BODY)




The fruits listed above are low sugar fruits.

Potatoes are lower in glutamate than rice.

Eggs are a perfect protein.

Lamb is low in glutamate compared to other meats.





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[Buddie]

Re: ADRENAL FATIGUE, ME, CFS SUPPORT GROUP
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2016, 02:04:21 am »
I have found that diet is extremely important during withdrawal. I may be in a minority in that I have food intolerances, some of them pre-benzo. I thought I was eating a healthy diet by adding in kefir and yogurt but it pushed me into histamine intolerance last November--I am not sure if this was due to withdrawal and gut GABA receptors deing down regulated.
I also have to really watch how many carbs I eat because of blood sugar issues--this may be because of adrenal fatigue which I know I have.
I eat very few fruits--some berries since they are lower in sugar. I also eat green bananas on occasion mainly for the potassium. I really avoid eating sugar.
I eat a lot of organic meats--chicken, turkey, and grass fed beef. I also eat at least one big salad every day along with a lot of vegetables. I try to limit carbs to complex carbs like quinoa, gluten free steel cut oats, and sweet potatoes. Sometimes I give in and have a gluten free bagel since I am hungry a lot. I eat 5-6 meals a day to keep my blood sugar as even as possible.
I do not eat anything with caffeine in it since it revs me up so bad still after 2 years. Also no alcohol.
Figuring out what I should be eating has taken me a while and I get really frustrated that I have to eat a really strict diet. I am hoping that when I am healed that I am able to add some foods back in.
I do not eat gluten because I have Hashimoto's and I don't eat dairy because of casein intolerance.

I also walk every day, meditate, sometimes take bubble baths before bed, do adrenal breathing, really try to keep positive thoughts in my mind. I also take a few of the recommended vitamins/minerals for adrenal fatigue--vitamin C, E, magnesium. I need to go back to taking pantothenic acid, a B vitamin. I am just wary of taking a B vitamin alone since they are all needed together in balanced amounts. Most forms of B12 and folate rev me way up.

This may be of interest to those with leaky gut. My functional med doc suggested that I use resistant starch to increase butyrate producing gut bacteria. Butyrate is a short chain fatty acid that helps reduce inflammation and helps seal up a leaky gut. You can get extra resistant starch by mixing banana flour, plantain flour, or potato starch in water. I have found banana flour works best for me. There is a lot of resistant starch info on the internet so I won't get too detailed about it.

Hi Blue,
Thanks for the post.
I recebtly got diagnosed with Hashimoto and I also need to lay off the gluten and dairy.
Im finding it really hard to know what to eat.


For now I just wanted to tag this post. My head is too fuzzy to read it all but I skimmed theough it and will give it another go tomorrow.

Hi [...] ;D
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[Buddie]

Re: ADRENAL FATIGUE, ME, CFS SUPPORT GROUP
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2016, 02:08:15 am »


Hi [...]  ;D :D ;D

Check the post above, you'll get lots of ideas here, I do a lot of research as others do too...

Bed time for me soon...

Will add more in the coming days... stuff NOT to eat.  >:D

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[Buddie]

Re: ADRENAL FATIGUE, ME, CFS SUPPORT GROUP
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2016, 02:09:14 am »
My understanding is that kefir is good for healing GABA. I was having problems with the dairy so I need to get the grains and filter to make my own with almond milk.
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[Buddie]

Re: ADRENAL FATIGUE, ME, CFS SUPPORT GROUP
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2016, 02:11:53 am »


Hi [...]  ;D :D ;D

Check the post above, you'll get lots of ideas here, I do a lot of research as others do too...

Bed time for me soon...

Will add more in the coming days... stuff NOT to eat.  >:D
Finding it hard to go off gluten. It gives me awful jointpain to do it at once but I am getting there.
Im just not too smart with all the stuff i need to be eating in order to make up for the things I can not eat.
I think in general
I am doign alright on the diet, with some slips here and there.

Thanks for starting this thread.
I am not really worried about the glutamate rich foods myself right now, but more gluten free,things good for the adrenals, no msg and well... Stuff.

Goodnight for now.
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[Buddie]

Re: ADRENAL FATIGUE, ME, CFS SUPPORT GROUP
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2016, 02:20:22 am »

People with adrenal fatigue crave sugar and white flour products, such as cakes, buns, pasties, pastries, doughnuts, pies, cookies, crackers and soft drinks, this is because when you have adrenal fatigue, you usually have hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) and foods made from refined flour and sugar raise blood sugar levels quickly but they raise blood sugar so high and so fast that too much insulin is released in response, excess insulin then causes blood sugar levels to crash leading to hypoglycemic symptoms and more cravings for the bad foods.

Refined flour and sugar are naked calories, the metabolism of which drains an already depleted body of the vitamins and minerals it needs to heal itself, these foods wreak havoc on the bodies metabolism and cause cravings and is why they are so addictive.

In other words, if you don't want to have sugar crashes, put down that chocolate bar or doughnut and eat a Waldorf salad instead.
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[Buddie]

Re: ADRENAL FATIGUE, ME, CFS SUPPORT GROUP
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2016, 02:22:24 am »


I am so swearing off sugar again now, and pies and pastries also... boring but necessary. If it leads to health it's worth it.
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