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[Buddie]

ADRENAL FATIGUE, ME, CFS SUPPORT GROUP
« on: March 03, 2016, 12:35:12 am »

PRIMARY OBJECTIVE OF THIS GROUP IS TO NOT ONLY DISCUSS SYMPTOMS BUT WAYS TO HELP SUPPORT EACH OTHER WITH WHAT WORKS DIET WISE TO SUPPORT OUR BODY THROUGH THE WITHDRAWAL PROCESS.

PLEASE CONTRIBUTE !!!

I had a bad bout of adrenal fatigue when I tapered too fast at the beginning of my taper, I was bedridden and barely able to walk, it took many months to get any form of energy back and it was so debilitating and frustrating, I felt like 100 years old at times.

I went on a healthy eating regime and cut out the following;

SUGAR
CAFFEINE
ALCOHOL
FRIED FOODS
MSG

I went on a macrobiotic style diet for awhile before realizing that this was not supporting my body enough, in fact, eating super healthy was almost as bad as eating unhealthy, the body needs plenty of PROTEIN in this illness.

I relapsed onto sugar and fried foods in the last 6 months as I was feeling stronger, I indulged and thoroughly enjoyed it but I forgot I am still not done with this process yet, I guess I just wanted to treat myself but before I knew it I was eating ice cream and chocolate often and I started to despise my healthy eating regime as it had previously not seemed to help but now I have learned my lesson as a recent wave has [...] me feeling fatigued and like I have adrenal fatigue again, so I am looking to remedy this and get back to looking after my body in this process as much as possible.

Whilst I do not think diet helps the symptoms of withdrawal (only time seems to help), it is common sense to do all we can to support the body going through times of severe mental and physical stress and this depletes the adrenal function and generally gives us a better chance at recovery.

I am a little confused as to diet, I am going to try and eliminate foods that rank high in GLUTAMATE and yet try and stick to a diet that nourishes and sustains and supports the body and try and figure out the foods to avoid.

I would like others to share in their findings also, we need SOLUTIONS here and by sharing maybe we can help each other to heal faster.



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[Buddie]

Re: ADRENAL FATIGUE, ME, CFS SUPPORT GROUP
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2016, 12:38:18 am »

I have just purchased "Adrenal Fatigue : The 21st Century Stress Syndrome" book by James L Wilson.



I will post here some notes...
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[Buddie]

Re: ADRENAL FATIGUE, ME, CFS SUPPORT GROUP
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2016, 12:44:06 am »
FRUIT


FRUIT SHOULD NOT BE CONSUMED IN GREAT AMOUNTS

FRUIT SHOULD GENERALLY BE AVOIDED IN THE MORNINGS


FRUITS TO AVOID:        


BANANAS
FIGS
DATES
ORANGES
FRUIT JUICES
RAISINS
GRAPEFRUIT


SAFE FRUITS:


PEARS
APPLES
CHERRIES
PLUMS


BUY ORGANIC IF POSSIBLE AND WASH ALL FRUIT BEFORE EATING.
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[Buddie]

Re: ADRENAL FATIGUE, ME, CFS SUPPORT GROUP
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2016, 12:59:25 am »

EAT BEFORE 10 AM

EARLY LUNCH (BEFORE NOON) 11 - 11.30

EAT A NUTITIOUS SNACK BETWEEN 2 - 3 PM

EVENING MEAL 6 PM

BEFORE BED A SMALL NUTRITIOUS SNACK

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[Buddie]

Re: ADRENAL FATIGUE, ME, CFS SUPPORT GROUP
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2016, 01:01:14 am »
[...], are those food recommendations from the book? I think any extreme diet tends to lead to swings towards crappy eating because of the feelings of moderation.

I've reduced, but not cut out sugar (I tried it and saw no improvement). Giving up caffeine was hard but worth it. Mostly I'm trying to eat cleanly and get more veges and fruit. I'm pretty careful to get the protein I need.

Getting off the drugs helped me get stronger from the CFS but now I feel the CFS is part of the delay in my healing. My energy isn't coming back like other's does but I'm able to do much more with exercise than I was. It's the stamina to keep going all day that I seem to lack. And of course I can't sleep.

Really what's helped me is time, exercise (very gradual but including weights, walking, exercise class and yoga/stretching), meditation, gratitude practice, and stress management. Sometimes it sucks but it doesn't suck as much as it used to. I know there are a bunch of us with adrenal or fatigue issues. Hopefully others will jump in.
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[Buddie]

Re: ADRENAL FATIGUE, ME, CFS SUPPORT GROUP
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2016, 01:21:22 am »

Hi [...].  :)

My goal here is to try and get others that have had fatigue issues going through this to post what they feel works for them, what they have been advised by nutritionists, doctors etc (if any) and how diet has played out in terms of healing and what foods to steer clear from.

I am of the opinion that only TIME really heals us but at the same time I do think that it would be amiss to ignore a good dietary regime to help give the body the extra nutrients it needs in order to heal, excessive stress depletes the body very quickly and so I am seeking to try and combat this as much as I possibly can whilst going through withdrawal, I am not tapering again just yet but I am looking to (again) rectify my eating habits and hopefully this will help me through the rest of my taper.

I think it is wrong to become phobic of food, I know I did this earlier when I started my taper, if anything, I think that can just place us under more stress, this time I am just looking to include foods which are considered to be good for us in this illness.

I am looking to avoid foods that are high in GLUTAMATE for the reasons of helping GABA, although I don't see this making a huge difference, it may help ameliorate withdrawals a little, it's unlikely but it's worth a shot, right?

I am also interested in foods that generally support the adrenal function, I do not believe that what we have is necessarily CFS, ME, or adrenal fatigue, I think it is just how withdrawal manifests itself but it sure does FEEL like any of those conditions, I know that when I had a true window once, everything just vanished, even so, I think it helps to try and limit the damage on the body whilst going through this, everyone is different and everyone will be at different stages in this process, some may tolerate sugar, some may tolerate caffeine, yet I hope that for those that have has fatigue issues, this group may help in some way by us all sharing what seems to work well for us.

I knew when I could barely walk that life was no fun at all and I was desperate to gain some strength back, I made mistakes with my diet, I went mostly macrobiotic at one stage and it was too limited in terms of proteins and so I think it is important to eat clean but eat often and well and have good sources of protein and healthy fats in the diet but of course I am interested to hear what diets are working for others so that I may learn something new also.

 
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[Buddie]

Re: ADRENAL FATIGUE, ME, CFS SUPPORT GROUP
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2016, 01:25:43 am »

AVOID ALL DEEP FRIED FOODS
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Re: ADRENAL FATIGUE, ME, CFS SUPPORT GROUP
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2016, 01:32:33 am »
Awesome thread and very timely as I went to the Dr's today for this. He was a dick and no help. I am excited to follow this thread. I haven't found anything yet that helps. Hopefully others will jump in.
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[Buddie]

Re: ADRENAL FATIGUE, ME, CFS SUPPORT GROUP
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2016, 01:33:45 am »
FOODS LOW IN GLUTAMATE:

Lima, Borlotti, Red Kidney, Haricot, Soy and Black Eye beans (must be fresh or dried, i.e. tinned beans are not acceptable)
Eggs
Boiled or Steamed White or Brown Rice (any variety of white or brown rice except for fragrant rice like jasmine, basmati or wild rice, also no puffed rice such as rice bubbles or puffed rice cakes)
Rice Noodles
Rice Pasta
Rice flour
Common white potatoes, i.e. those commonly sold as "old", "washed" or "brushed" potatoes, often these are the sebago variety. These must be peeled. "New" potatoes or red pontiac potatoes or any other specialist varieties are not acceptable.
Potato flour
Swede
Lettuce, common variety (inside leaves only)
Celery
Fresh Green beans
Mung Bean sprouts
Leeks
Choko
Shallots (common variety only)
Chives (common variety only)
Garlic
Fresh Pears, peeled and must be ripe
Tinned Pears in syrup (not in juice)
Golden Delicious Apples (peeled and must be ripe)
Nashi Pears (peeled and must be ripe)
Sugar (small amount only)
Golden Syrup (small amount only)
Canola (also known as Rape Seed), Safflower or Sunflower oil (pure oils only, i.e. no preservatives)
Raw Cashews
Milk
Natural Yoghurt
Water
Asparagus
Pumpkin
Sweet Potato
Carrot
Onion
Beetroot (fresh only)
Red Delicious Apples
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[Buddie]

Re: ADRENAL FATIGUE, ME, CFS SUPPORT GROUP
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2016, 01:35:47 am »
Awesome thread and very timely as I went to the Dr's today for this. He was a dick and no help. I am excited to follow this thread. I haven't found anything yet that helps. Hopefully others will jump in.

Great.  :thumbsup:

I am hoping this thread grows in time, we moan about symptoms enough, we need to start finding our own healing solutions.



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