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[Buddie]

Re: Muscle pain support group
« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2016, 02:01:29 pm »
Mountaingirl
sounds like you are doing good! I am trying to cut down on vitamins. I dont see a lot of wd from them but they say not to do a lot of them. I am doing vitamins, adaptogens, and just startied trying seriphos for cortisol to lower,. take 1 or 2 melatonin w remeron and magnesium at night. and chinese herbs for sleep from acupuncturist. Sometimes take advil. And circumin (tumeric).
I take a probiotic also. I dont know how to get just the ones you mentioned?
which brand Axastanthin?
Im mostly desperate for sleep lately again. Dont feel as sore today but worried bout sleep, weak, and cant think. Cooking is daunting. i have no help here

Sat i had a massage from chinese lady way different than iv ever done. later was nauseated and wiped out. so sun was real sore all over, anxious, didnt sleep enough last night. now im trying to get in for cranio-sacral/myofascial or accupunture. probably acupuncture i think it ll help sleep

btw, i read that info on antioxidants in a medical journal type site more and another place too. they say antioxidants from food is fine. go figure.
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[Buddie]

Re: Muscle pain support group
« Reply #31 on: April 11, 2016, 02:27:50 pm »
Mountaingirl
sounds like you are doing good! I am trying to cut down on vitamins. I dont see a lot of wd from them but they say not to do a lot of them. I am doing vitamins, adaptogens, and just startied trying seriphos for cortisol to lower,. take 1 or 2 melatonin w remeron and magnesium at night. and chinese herbs for sleep from acupuncturist. Sometimes take advil. And circumin (tumeric).
I take a probiotic also. I dont know how to get just the ones you mentioned?
which brand Axastanthin?
Im mostly desperate for sleep lately again. Dont feel as sore today but worried bout sleep, weak, and cant think. Cooking is daunting. i have no help here

Sat i had a massage from chinese lady way different than iv ever done. later was nauseated and wiped out. so sun was real sore all over, anxious, didnt sleep enough last night. now im trying to get in for cranio-sacral/myofascial or accupunture. probably acupuncture i think it ll help sleep

btw, i read that info on antioxidants in a medical journal type site more and another place too. they say antioxidants from food is fine. go figure.


Kris,

I still have a cortisol surge waking up most mornings, tho not all.  Looping brain, bad cramps, nerve pain.  Some days it eases up fairly quickly, some not.  I buy a softgel Astaxathin with coconut oil.  I was taking 12mg, it made me feel great, alert, just clear headed, but I couldn't sleep well with it.  But I have had a head injury in a car wreck and don't sleep well.  My hubs who doesn't sleep well, he's taking it now and it doesn't bother him.  I bought 2mg softgels to take, and it's not affecting me now, slept great last nite.

Try acupressure points for sleep, they have really made all the difference for me, they knock me out within 20 min.  I use LI4 and the third eye point among others.   Yes massages will ramp you up temporarily, they do me too, I get one every week.  Sometimes acupuncture ramps me up, other times it doesn't, depends on how bad I'm flaring that day.

I disagree about supplements being bad, JMO.  If we are low like I was on magnesium and Vit. D, we need them.  I also take potassium for my bad cramps.  You may want to take it easy on those adaptogenic herbs, most are like ginseng and will ramp you up.  Been healing with herbs for 25+ yrs.  I take Astragalus, immune system builder, overall healing herb without the ginseng effect.  I'm also taking Nigella Sativa, Black Cumin, it seems to help me sleep as does the astragalus.

Hope this helps.

Hugs, MG :smitten:
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[Buddie]

Re: Muscle pain support group
« Reply #32 on: April 11, 2016, 03:36:07 pm »
Thanks mountaingirl - little overwhelmed with info today trying to focus w out sleep, then it worries me that i cant focus UHG
Sooo you went from 12 to 2? what brand?

the adaptagens i have are holy basil, ashwaganda, rhodiola. I have cordycep/reishi pills too. I have a blend of herbs w ashwaganda called ayflemmend - u familiar? Havent heard of the sativa or black cumin

Im so tired of research and therapies etc etc allowing myself to do nothing cause i cant do anything. Its full time job healing. maybe im makin it like that. I have had good days and do stuff

Massage doesnt ramp me up but this woman was different! shakin out my arms like beach towels and such

Now i have a plugged up feeling ear
im going to cranio sacral today and accupuncture

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[Buddie]

Re: Muscle pain support group
« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2016, 05:13:24 pm »
Thanks mountaingirl - little overwhelmed with info today trying to focus w out sleep, then it worries me that i cant focus UHG
Sooo you went from 12 to 2? what brand?

the adaptagens i have are holy basil, ashwaganda, rhodiola. I have cordycep/reishi pills too. I have a blend of herbs w ashwaganda called ayflemmend - u familiar? Havent heard of the sativa or black cumin

Im so tired of research and therapies etc etc allowing myself to do nothing cause i cant do anything. Its full time job healing. maybe im makin it like that. I have had good days and do stuff

Massage doesnt ramp me up but this woman was different! shakin out my arms like beach towels and such

Now i have a plugged up feeling ear
im going to cranio sacral today and accupuncture




Kris,

Sports research was the 12mg brand I bought, the 2mg is Source Naturals.  There are many good brands of softgels.

I say no wonder you are flaring, Ashwaganda and holy basil will ramp you up.  Have tried every one you are taking.  Personally I would get off all, give yourself a few days and see if you feel better, and try one at a time.  They will ramp you up though most likely.  I personally would take one or the other of Ash or holy basil, not both at once.  never heard of the ayflemmend, no surprise, there are thousands upon thousands of variations, and even though I've studied them for many years, I still run into new ones.

You should think about getting the probiotics and healing your gut/immune system, and maybe lay off the adaptogenic herbs for awhile.  I think you are overloading your CNS.

MG
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Re: Muscle pain support group
« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2016, 09:46:53 pm »
Dunno if anyones tried magnesium oil.
I used to take magnesium malate tablets, but I have IBS so I like the transdermal magnesium route the best and magnesium is so good a muscle relaxer that it puts me to sleep when in bed, and that was before I ever took diaz.
The transdermal also helps to moisturize the skin even thoguh its not a true oil.
It can sting a bit but its worth it, for the rewards it gives to tenseness, which causes muscle pain and stiffness.
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Re: Muscle pain support group
« Reply #35 on: April 11, 2016, 11:07:38 pm »
Dunno if anyones tried magnesium oil.
I used to take magnesium malate tablets, but I have IBS so I like the transdermal magnesium route the best and magnesium is so good a muscle relaxer that it puts me to sleep when in bed, and that was before I ever took diaz.
The transdermal also helps to moisturize the skin even thoguh its not a true oil.
It can sting a bit but its worth it, for the rewards it gives to tenseness, which causes muscle pain and stiffness.



Journey,

I use both, have for years with my bad spine and joints.  I use Mag Citrate caps Now brand softgels, and have several spray bottles of mag oxide, I made them up myself with the mag crystals.  Definitely helps with muscle pain.  Lavender oil also is great for joint pain & migraines.

MG
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Re: Muscle pain support group
« Reply #36 on: April 11, 2016, 11:52:48 pm »
thanks mountain girl
i think i noticed a better mood w the rodiola. I dont do large amounts of anything though.  im doin the CALM powder mag at night. i have magnesium spray i tried and Arnica - didnt notice much but maybe didnt use enough. oh also take a good probiotic
how many milligrams do ya all use of magnesium? which kind?
heard coconut oil ramps you up and that it relaxes...?
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Re: Muscle pain support group
« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2016, 12:26:57 am »
thanks mountain girl
i think i noticed a better mood w the rodiola. I dont do large amounts of anything though.  im doin the CALM powder mag at night. i have magnesium spray i tried and Arnica - didnt notice much but maybe didnt use enough. oh also take a good probiotic
how many milligrams do ya all use of magnesium? which kind?
heard coconut oil ramps you up and that it relaxes...?



Kris,

I use the Now brand softgels,  magnesium citrate.  Any supplement you take should be softgels, we are more likely to absorb them as opposed to tablets.  Don't know about coconut oil, I have it, but don't take large enough amounts to tell a difference.

MG
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Re: Muscle pain support group
« Reply #38 on: April 12, 2016, 12:30:03 am »
thanks mountain girl
i think i noticed a better mood w the rodiola. I dont do large amounts of anything though.  im doin the CALM powder mag at night. i have magnesium spray i tried and Arnica - didnt notice much but maybe didnt use enough. oh also take a good probiotic
how many milligrams do ya all use of magnesium? which kind?
heard coconut oil ramps you up and that it relaxes...?
I've got rhodiola. How much do you take? How long does it take for your mood to lift? Do you eat with it?

As for magnesium oil, I dunno how many mgs I use, i just spray it on my arms, legs and torso and gonna start with the neck. I use life flo, I think its like 100mg every 4 or 8 sprays i cant remember sorry but I think that i-herb have the info on.
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Re: Muscle pain support group
« Reply #39 on: April 12, 2016, 01:07:18 am »
Oops!  forgot to say mg, I think it's 700 or 800 a day.  I take 4 of those Now brand softgels a day.  Depends on the type of magnesium you are taking also.

Mg
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