Author Topic: Review of The Linden 'Method'  (Read 20932 times)

[Buddie]

Re: Review of The Linden 'Method'
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2015, 10:20:00 pm »
Hi [...],

If you read Professor Paul Salkovskis's review, you would know that some people have not received refunds. Indeed, one of our members has already detailed in this thread his own difficulties in receiving a refund. The point is that Linden makes claims of controlled studies of his 'Method' - this is a lie. He has claimed that he has accredited therapists working for TLM - this is a lie. He rubbishes CBT as unscientific and useless - this too is a lie. He then makes use of basic CBT principles in his 'Method' - this is hypocrisy. He has made totally unsubstantiated claims in his advertising materials - he ignored the rulings of the Advertising Standards Agency (ASA) to stop making such claims. The ASA has now turned over the matter to the legal department of Trading Standards - this results in very serious concerns about Linden's honesty and integrity.

It makes little sense to not trust someone (on principle) who has gone through thorough training, has been tested, and is monitored by a professional body (Doctors and accredited therapists) and yet, trust someone like Linden. I can understand why people who feel let down in their personal care have misgivings about the medical profession - I was let down too. But, medicine is inexact by its very nature, is operated by people, and people are imperfect. What is worse is to instead go to someone with no professional training, no monitoring, no accountability, and who has proven track record of duplicity. Do what you wish, but I strongly recommend that you read Prof. Salkovskis's blog. If you have done this already, read it more carefully.

Additionally, if I go to a doctor or therapist, I do expect them to be working under their real/legal name. If someone is providing 'anxiety therapy services', I expect to be able to check their backgrounds for accreditations, qualifications, misconduct, dishonesty, etc. We cannot do this if they use an alias. Of course, Linden holds no such training or qualifications; nor is he monitored by a professional body. So yeah, using a real name rather than an alias when providing such services is important.
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[Buddie]

Re: Review of The Linden 'Method'
« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2016, 06:19:32 pm »
Damn it. I'm an idiot. I didn't see this...

I was in a real bad way and I was sucked into the marketing... which I now know is false.

My main thought about the program is that it is unsafe. I'll try getting a refund.
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[Buddie]

Re: Review of The Linden 'Method'
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2016, 10:07:41 pm »
Sorry to hear that, [...].

But don't be too hard on yourself. You are not 'an idiot'. These schemes are designed to persuade/confuse/deceive, taking advantage of people in benzodiazepine withdrawal or recovery; we are less sharp and more desperate. Just chalk it up to experience (but do try to get that refund).

Good luck.
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[Buddie]

Re: Review of The Linden 'Method'
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2017, 09:43:32 am »
I almost bought this!!!! Glad I read this!
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Re: Review of The Linden 'Method'
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2019, 10:12:17 pm »
I purchased The Linden Method (TLM) ages ago, back when it was distributed on cassette tape.  It was one of the few options available to learn about or try to address anxiety around 20 years ago.  There was some useful info, but in my opinion, the 'program' falls short in the following areas:

  • The author's personal experience is the main explanation of anxiety and it's effects; not much science behind what your body is going through or why.
  • There is no mention of how long the recovery process may take or how to gauge your progress.  I got the feeling after reading all the material that while this guy may have suffered anxiety, his trial was relatively short in the grand scheme of things.
  • The 'ignore it and it will go away', and 'stuff the feelings down deep and don't acknowledge them' mantra of the material came across as unreasonable and untenable, especially for anyone in the physical and mental throes of debilitating anxiety.

On a positive note, the body scan audio provided with the material is excellent and one I still use today.  I would have happily paid a few bucks just for that vs. the hundred and whatever I spent for the whole program.

Sadly, when I reached out to them as a previous purchaser to see if I could get an updated copy of the program on MP3, they were more than happy to offer me all the material again...at full price.  That pretty much turned me off to TLM for good.

If I may offer an alternative here, I highly recommend 'Anxietycentre . com' (spelled with the UK 'tre' at the end as opposed to the US 'ter'; they are out of Canada).  Their content on anxiety (and some on depression) is bar none some of the most concise and detailed I have ever come across.  They have some free content, and an in depth 'members only' section which costs about $20 a year, though you can do a month for a few bucks if you want to try it out.  They also offer online counseling (based in CBT), and all of their counselors are previous anxiety sufferers who must be medication free in order to work for them.
 
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[Buddie]

Re: Review of The Linden 'Method'
« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2020, 08:01:59 pm »
I got hold of the book and the audio material and found it to be a very sketchy personal system. I did dome research on 'Linden' and there are a lot of negative reviews out there. It seems to be a moneymaking thing where desperate people will pay anything to find relief.
If I had all the answers as 'Linden' suggests I would gladly distribute them for free.
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[Buddie]

Re: Review of The Linden 'Method'
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2021, 11:26:28 am »
I note that the Amazon product was removed at some stage, so Lindens comments to the review I linked no longer exist. But here are some more reviews:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Charles-Linden-Disorder-Elimination-Solution/product-reviews/B00ECJCZUS/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_show_all_btm?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews

This one in particular is rather disturbing:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/customer-reviews/R1RTEM2TOD7CXR?ref=pf_vv_at_pdctrvw_srp
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[Buddie]

Re: Review of The Linden 'Method'
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2022, 10:29:34 pm »
Thanks for this. I was thinking about looking into it in desperation. Pushes all my buttons, as a huge source of my anxiety is the "We have the only right way" upbringing I had. Telling people not to go to doctors is ridiculous. My anxiety is mental but I also have physical crawling out of my body awful anxiety I believe is more related to my autonomic dysfunction. If only there was something safe and nonaddictive that would relieve it. I was in Urgent Care all day yesterday with health scare that ended up being ok. Scared to death but I still didn't have this physical awfulness. It's there, then it disappears.
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[Buddie]

Re: Review of The Linden 'Method'
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2022, 11:59:36 pm »
Thanks for this. I was thinking about looking into it in desperation. Pushes all my buttons, as a huge source of my anxiety is the "We have the only right way" upbringing I had. Telling people not to go to doctors is ridiculous. My anxiety is mental but I also have physical crawling out of my body awful anxiety I believe is more related to my autonomic dysfunction. If only there was something safe and nonaddictive that would relieve it. I was in Urgent Care all day yesterday with health scare that ended up being ok. Scared to death but I still didn't have this physical awfulness. It's there, then it disappears.

I'm very glad you read this thread.  It's easy to want to reach for something when withdrawal issues are strong. From what I've read over the years and based on member's experiences, it seems this method does a good job of emptying your wallet.

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