[Da...] Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Pardon me if this is a dumb question, all you chemistry-smart people out there, but if a molecule,like clonazapam or other fat soluble med, dissolves into a solution with whole milk- is it chemically still the same?? Is it connected to the fat molecule or in anyway not as "bio-available" as the straight pill form? I am just wondering. Thanks for any info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[bu...] Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Pardon me if this is a dumb question, all you chemistry-smart people out there, but if a molecule,like clonazapam or other fat soluble med, dissolves into a solution with whole milk- is it chemically still the same?? Is it connected to the fat molecule or in anyway not as "bio-available" as the straight pill form? I am just wondering. Thanks for any info. Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Da...] Posted November 1, 2015 Author Share Posted November 1, 2015 Thanks, Builder. I was just wondering why some people have trouble with the milk titration at first(besides any lactose intolerance issues of course). My daughter seemed to be having some issues even on her full original does in milk, and I went back to the straight pill for awhile to see if it would help and it really seems to be better. (She was having so many issues and had some more important exams coming up so I put her back up at her original dose for awhile and will micro taper even slower later to see if that helps) I looked it up on the internet but couldn't find any answers that I could understand - it all seemed to be college level chemistry!! However I did one explanation of what happens when salt is dissolved in water and apparently the sodium and chloride molecules are pulled apart by the charged polarity of water!! But apparently lipids are not polarized? So maybe this doesn't happen with lipid dissolving molecules like clonazapam?? Perhaps the difference between milk and pill form is that you might not be getting every last drop of clonazapam (or other benzos) in the milk?? I see a few particles left on the side of the glass , but assumed those must be the fillers since the benzo is supposed to have dissolved in the milk, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[bu...] Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Perhaps the difference between milk and pill form is that you might not be getting every last drop of clonazapam (or other benzos) in the milk?? I see a few particles left on the side of the glass , but assumed those must be the fillers since the benzo is supposed to have dissolved in the milk, right? Very probably just non-soluble inactive ingredients. But with any liquid taper procedure, its a good idea to rinse the dose container and drink the rinse. This insures you are not leaving any med behind in the container. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[ga...] Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Pardon me if this is a dumb question, all you chemistry-smart people out there, but if a molecule,like clonazapam or other fat soluble med, dissolves into a solution with whole milk- is it chemically still the same?? Is it connected to the fat molecule or in anyway not as "bio-available" as the straight pill form? I am just wondering. Thanks for any info. Yes. builder, I always enjoy how you get to the point in as few words as needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[bu...] Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Pardon me if this is a dumb question, all you chemistry-smart people out there, but if a molecule,like clonazapam or other fat soluble med, dissolves into a solution with whole milk- is it chemically still the same?? Is it connected to the fat molecule or in anyway not as "bio-available" as the straight pill form? I am just wondering. Thanks for any info. Yes. builder, I always enjoy how you get to the point in as few words as needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[ga...] Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Pardon me if this is a dumb question, all you chemistry-smart people out there, but if a molecule,like clonazapam or other fat soluble med, dissolves into a solution with whole milk- is it chemically still the same?? Is it connected to the fat molecule or in anyway not as "bio-available" as the straight pill form? I am just wondering. Thanks for any info. Yes. builder, I always enjoy how you get to the point in as few words as needed Wow, even with no words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[he...] Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 So drinking milk with my diazepam is not a good idea right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Da...] Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share Posted November 16, 2015 Heretohear--I believe that Builder was saying that the medicine IS still the same chemically when dissolved into milk (notice that he bolded the words highlighted the question "is it chemically still the same?" before he replied "yes". (I could see how it could be a confusing answer!) Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[ga...] Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Heretohear--I believe that Builder was saying that the medicine IS still the same chemically when dissolved into milk (notice that he bolded the words highlighted the question "is it chemically still the same?" before he replied "yes". (I could see how it could be a confusing answer!) Hope this helps. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[he...] Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[li...] Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I have only experience with the tablets and the drops as made by the manufacturer. If I'm not mistaken, the drops have a 100 % bioavailability, the tablets less. And from experience, I know that the drops/liquid is different from the tablets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[bu...] Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Only the physical form (from dry compressed powder to dissolve liquid ) is changed. Medically, pharmaceutically, it is still the same med and has all the other original properties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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