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[Buddie]

Re: Micro Tapering/Daily Tapering off of Klonopin Ė Success Story -
« Reply #120 on: March 15, 2019, 01:17:01 pm »
I have not come to this forum on a regular basis. Due to the many opinions of taper methods I stayed away. At first I sifted through the many opinions. I did join Jana's group in July/Aug 2013  to start micro tapering. But I rather like the term ďDaily TaperingĒ.

The taper was the right choice for me. I left the group midway and just took care of myself for the rest of the taper which was considerably many months.  I found certain things not true on my own and other things very helpful.

I started tapering the last day in July 2013 by December 2013 I was noticing lots of improvements however I did go through two frozen shoulders, one at a time and that was painful.

I had all the symptoms most people list so I am not going to list every single symptom.

If I can look back most my psychological symptoms faded away in December 2013. I now consider that a phase one. Phase two was the pain phase, nerve pain, arm pain muscle pain and all that started to fade by October 2014 in fact I had hardly any symptoms so end of phase two and onto phase three which was the healing phase. I lost all my symptoms except for fatigue and started to improve dramatically after October 2014. I was tapering but the only thing that reminded me was taking the actual doses and being fatigued, other than that I felt pretty normal, I still had dry hair and skin though.

My taper took 15 months for .50mg Klonopin.

Did I heal before my last drop of a dose because of the taper?

Or was it because of the time it took?

Would I have healed in the total time of 15 months if I tapered faster? I will never know.

Am I totally healed now? I would say yes to all the withdrawal symptoms however I feel that I am returning slowly to homeostasis.

I am happy that I did it this way because I wanted the safest taper possible I could find and even though this was incredibly slow it delivered what I wanted. I was tapering and able to regain a lot of my life and function while tapering. If I had to go back and do it over again I would do exactly how I did it.

I was on Klonopin for over 20 years and in my opinion this was the best plan for my situation.

The first time I tapered I tapered 5 percent every two weeks and I got down to .25mg a day. I held for eight months due to my best fried passing away.  Then one morning about 3:00am I woke up in a bolt of blind terror. I had no idea I was in acute tolerance withdrawal. After about a week of that I went to the ER, I had no idea it was the klonopin because I was still taking .25mg a day.

The ER Doctor gave me .50mg of Klonopin and when I got relief of my symptoms I realized that what I experienced was klonopin withdrawal. The ER Doctor did not tell me I was in withdrawal all he said was to throw out the rest of my klonopin and he wrote a prescription for seven days of Xanax. I tore up that prescription and called my prescribing doctor who then told me it was break through anxiety and just upped my klonopin to .50mgs 3 x a day.  I knew it was withdrawal and I only took .50mg twice a day for two days when it hit me that this will just happen again in the future. I went back to .50mg a day and started to look for taper types and learned about daily tapering. I took my .50mg dose and put it in whole milk and divided it up to take three times a day, I did this for a month because  that helped me to be stable.

I started out tapering at .0005mg a day August 2013 then doubled that to .001mg in November 2013 and decided to stay there for as long as I could.

I did not have to slow down towards the end, in fact towards the end I felt really normal. All I had towards the end was fatigue.

I keep seeing posts of people saying that slow tapers have to face acute after their tapers and this did not happen to me at all! So it is not true everyone faces acute even if they do a very slow taper. How slow do you think tapering slow is?

This taper might not be for everyone but it was the best one for me. I don't have fear of acute anymore, I have [...] from withdrawal and doctors. All my phobias disappeared.  even my phobias I had before withdrawal and before I ever took a benzo.

My hair is starting to thicken and the dry part is softening up some.

My shoulders are still sore from the frozen shoulders episodes, I hope with exercise my muscle will return. I have already been exercising while tapering and have upped my exercise now and I am building up my muscle mass.  Exercise energizes me now, instead of wearing me out. My skin is making me happy now, no more dry skin (I was so sick of the dry skin) .

I do not have any withdrawal anxiety whatsoever.
I do not have any depression whatsoever.
I sleep like a rock now and wake up feeling good and do not have that tired and wired feeling.
I have had coffee and sometimes I feel jittery and sometimes I feel fine,  so I don't know what that means.

I will not drink now, maybe will try in a year.

I never doubted that the taper would not work, but it took such a hell of a long time that I felt it would never end. But it does end and we do heal, maybe not when we wish but it does and when it does it is wonderful and worth it.

I do think it took me such a long time and that was a bummer, however I was able to function like anyone else and that was the plan, I had no idea it would take 15 months. But in my mind I had to pick from fast and non functional or slow taper and fully functional.

I just read another tapering story that was horrifying so I was thankful to find yours!  I have been micro-tapering off Clonazepam for over a year now and plan to finish the taper in about 8-months so this has been a Long, slow process for me! Thanks for your success story... truly beneficial and inspiring!  :smitten:
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[Buddie]

Re: Micro Tapering/Daily Tapering off of Klonopin Ė Success Story -
« Reply #121 on: March 16, 2019, 04:16:30 am »
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Thank you! I am so glad I micro tapered. I had a failed klonopin taper before this one. I tapered to .25mg and held and about 4 months later woke up with a full blown akathsia, probably from tapering too fast.  I up-dosed to .50mg held and found out about the micro taper.  Plus previously had two failed lexapro tapers and then a success with the third lexapro taper.

I hope all goes smoothly for you now!

Kay
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[Buddie]

Re: Micro Tapering/Daily Tapering off of Klonopin Ė Success Story -
« Reply #122 on: July 24, 2019, 01:20:21 pm »
How much ml milk we should discard for your tapering like 0.0005mg a day. Please give all details.
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[Buddie]

Re: Micro Tapering/Daily Tapering off of Klonopin Ė Success Story -
« Reply #123 on: July 30, 2019, 06:55:58 pm »
I used 100ml for .50mg of klonopin.

.50mg divided by 100 = .005mg per mil

So on the small 1 ml oral syringe you would go up to the .1 (numbered) line for a .0005mg cut

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[Buddie]

Re: Micro Tapering/Daily Tapering off of Klonopin Ė Success Story -
« Reply #124 on: July 31, 2019, 01:38:56 am »
These success stories give me hope. Iím kinda of new to this and I need advice from those who have successfully gotten off. My story is in my signature. Basically havenít stabilized since last cut. I have a weird left over schedule from before. I take quarter mg k at 6:30 and half mg plus an eight at 10:30. Iím holding for almost 2 months waiting for stability. All day I have what feels like interdose withdraw symptoms (might be from not stabilizing from past cuts). When I take my first dose donít feel it. Even my second dose at night I donít feel the affect. Meaning, as I take my doses I donít feel that it makes feel normal. I need some help from the survivors. Iím very scared to make the next move, as I feel it could further destabilize me. Ive put this same question on a thread but didnít give any feedback. Any insight would be much appreciated.
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[Buddie]

Re: Micro Tapering/Daily Tapering off of Klonopin Ė Success Story -
« Reply #125 on: August 01, 2019, 09:37:10 pm »
Hi Kay!  Thanks for coming back so much to update us.  I would love to hear more on you theories about setbacks, what causes them and how to avoid them.  I know you've been studying this.  I'm so happy to read you are sx-free now -  amazing!   Thank you for all the help and support you've given me.  I take my last dose of benzo tonight.  The DMT really worked and I was sure I was doomed.  I'm not healed but MUCH better!
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[Buddie]

Re: Micro Tapering/Daily Tapering off of Klonopin Ė Success Story -
« Reply #126 on: August 26, 2019, 02:46:17 am »
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People talk about time and waiting. Which is true. If you tapered the slowest you could and you wait, its very probable everything will be alright.  That's not the case for me. It's the akathisia over anything else, since I had it 4 times, I am very sensitized and am not sure if the same rules apply such as someone having had akathisia one time. By bugging neurologists and making them answer most will say 2.7 years to  7 years  range on healing, some say 7 - 10 years healing. Biggest thing is the time off ALL medications and that's what is not understood. Since I had my last akathisia from a blood pressure pill I am in a bind, but other people are in other binds. People who need thyroid medications and have reactions, people needing biological medications for autoimmune diseases and  have reactions and even people needing chemo and getting akathisia.

I don't have any symptoms but also feel like if I have any of the health conditions I am in danger of further injury and I do believe each time injures increase and at some point push the person into the next level of injury which would be Dyskinesia and then even later on can go into Dystonia. Having had akathisia 4 times I am aware of chance of things getting worse. And my goal is not not get injured worse and deal with the others. I know many people that have had a reaction from a medication given to them in the ER end up with akathisia and have symptoms of Dyskinesia, even being diagnosed with and it all going away over time off all medications. I have personally seen it. If you search for the term "missd" in a search engine there is a new site for akathisia and there is more information, not as much as i want to see, but there are parts that explain different kinds of akathisa. So akathisia from withdrawal might be better than someone who gets it with a brain injury history and multiable akathisia like myself.

My setbacks could be because of my history.  I had a  brain injury in a car accident at age 16, end up have seizures for years, then medicated with phenobarbital for some years, then this benzo stuff for years. Then while on klonopin having akathisia from compazine in the ER for food poisoning. then while tapering an AD but still on klonopin getting akathisia from surgery. Then getting it from benzo withdrawal and then finally getting it from the blood pressure pills.  I am fine when I am not taking medications and the Doctors don't understand and doubt me so I am not currently getting and help from them.


Oh and last but not least Congratulations for being Benzo free! The DMT is the only way for me!  Staying away from medications as long as you can is your best shot to being 100 healed. As time goes by after the taper you will get better and better!

Kay

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[Buddie]

Re: Micro Tapering/Daily Tapering off of Klonopin Ė Success Story -
« Reply #127 on: August 26, 2019, 02:50:55 am »
These success stories give me hope. Iím kinda of new to this and I need advice from those who have successfully gotten off. My story is in my signature. Basically havenít stabilized since last cut. I have a weird left over schedule from before. I take quarter mg k at 6:30 and half mg plus an eight at 10:30. Iím holding for almost 2 months waiting for stability. All day I have what feels like interdose withdraw symptoms (might be from not stabilizing from past cuts). When I take my first dose donít feel it. Even my second dose at night I donít feel the affect. Meaning, as I take my doses I donít feel that it makes feel normal. I need some help from the survivors. Iím very scared to make the next move, as I feel it could further destabilize me. Ive put this same question on a thread but didnít give any feedback. Any insight would be much appreciated.

Sorry I took so long to come back. I tried that kind of taper before,taking big cut and putting months (6 months) between them and everytime when I got half way I went into acute. The only way I got better was putting my dose in milk and splitting it into three and dosing three times a day, the interdose withdrawal went away and I lost most of my very acute symptoms and I was ready to taper, which I did the Micro taper within 4 months of a slow slow taper I felt even better actually sped up the taper a tiny bit and finished it out in 18 months. By the time I got to the end I have very few symptoms (ears and being tired) thats about all.  In the thread Laura posts the measurements and that's what I did.
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