[Qu...] Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Heard on CNN this insomniatic AM. More to come, I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[88...] Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Hi-- my first thought was that he was on prescription drugs, and zoloft has supposedly been found in his system. I read that for a long time the FAA (US) banned ssris for pilots, then it was reinstated in 2008? Iggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mo...] Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Hmm......they are making a nice move now overhere...... first they talked openly about THOSE meds and so on......now they must have realized not to scare the public..... *WE CAN'T SAY ANYTHING UNTIL THE 2nd BLACK BOX HAS BEEN FOUND* CHANCES ARE VERY VERY HIGH THEY WILL NEVER FIND IT.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[88...] Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Um, I thought they found the black box, and that's how they heard the other pilot banging on the door.. It's early for me today... Iggy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mo...] Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Iggy....apparently there are 2 black boxes.......they found one .... but now they are saying.....unless they can inspect the 2nd one...... they can't comment anymore, you see what I mean ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mo...] Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 BTW, I worked for years at the airport, two Pilot friends of mine took Ativan and Lexotan for sleep, so did Stewards, so did folks at the Security Department where i was working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest [Ma...] Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Very interesting Claudia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mo...] Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Very interesting Claudia. This was 7 years ago.....I doubt if things have changed. Overhere you just ask your GP for a sleeping pill, Benzo-prescription is nothing unusual... My GP told me thats what they are here for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mo...] Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Update on News here : Before he started his carrer as a Pilot for Lufthansa..... he has been undergoing medical treatment due to suicidal tendency, not all that long ago. In tolerance wd ?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[La...] Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I also heard similar reports today and considered some of the same questions as everyone here. There are so many unanswered questions left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Qu...] Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Yes Morreweg - after all of our experiences, that's the first thing that comes to mind. Some sort of withdrawal effect. Sadly, the press (and authorities) will most likely focus on whether or not he was taking his prescribed meds - without taking any discontinuation effects into consideration. Being a pilot, crazy shifts, time zones, etc, insomnia could easily be a problem, and like you said, a benzo is sometimes the first thing they reach for. It could explain a lot. But Germany is pretty up on benzos ..... a professor, head of pharmacology at their best teaching hospital, was the first medical professional to tell me I should dump the klonopin, in no uncertain terms. I'm really curious - I hope they tell us what meds he was taking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[La...] Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I, too, would like to hear more about his medications. I also hope that this tragedy opens up the conversation about mental health. If his company thought he was "100% fit to fly", then it seems they were missing crucial information. It's sad from every angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mo...] Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Yes Qui, the problem is this....when you start taking a sleeping pill....you are clueless, no idea about Benzos. It works well, mine did for 6 years.... until I reached Tolerance. At the time i was clueless about tolerance as well.... Most people are aware of Valium, hands off .....its dangerous. but nobody knows about Ativan, Xanax, Klonopin etc... belongs to the same group. I don't quite understand how the system here works. There are good Professors who are well educated about Benzos, but GPs , other Doctors like Gynocoligsts, Internal Specialists etc. prescribe them too. Now, that Internet is getting popular here....things might hopefully change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mo...] Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 One of many opinions.....I thought I'd share it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Qu...] Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 Russell Brand is great ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mo...] Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Russell Brand is great ! agreed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Qu...] Posted March 31, 2015 Author Share Posted March 31, 2015 Maybe he stopped taking his medications to pass blood tests .... Didn't he just pass a physical of some sort? Sadly, we all know where that could lead. I wonder if they will ever tell us what the meds were - they're telling us everything else - certainly not respecting his privacy in regards to diagnosis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[La...] Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Yes, I was surprised that so much personal information came out in the way that it did. The 24-hour news cycle forces certain things to happen in a much quicker time frame than it ever did. Maybe we will still hear the details. I hope so, because it could bring about positive change, and it would be good for something positive to come out of this tragedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mo...] Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Here is a long Daily Mail Article.....pictures, vids etc. https://www.google.at/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CDAQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fnews%2Farticle-3013743%2FGermanwings-pilot-slipped-safety-net-devastating-consequences.html&ei=tdAaVeaLJo7LaOXEgOAJ&usg=AFQjCNEXAlOabLwQBcYeMHxY5BuPwJCn4g&bvm=bv.89381419,d.d2s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mo...] Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 News-flash here....German Co-Pilot did report his Depression..... Lufthansa was informed.... about medical treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[La...] Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Clearly, there's more to come. First, he was considered "100% fit to fly". Then the details started tricking out, and we found out he wasn't so "fit" after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mo...] Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Clearly, there's more to come. First, he was considered "100% fit to fly". Then the details started tricking out, and we found out he wasn't so "fit" after all. Big respect for the German Attorney-General....Big problem for Lufthansa..... Insurance will file court case in order not to pay ........people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[La...] Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Aside from all of the legal wrangling that will go on, I do hope there's some useful discussion about mental health. It's crucial. It's unbelievably sad for everyone involved, and the ripple effect of what took place on that flight touches many, many people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest [Ma...] Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Well said Lapis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Mo...] Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Aside from all of the legal wrangling that will go on, I do hope there's some useful discussion about mental health. It's crucial. It's unbelievably sad for everyone involved, and the ripple effect of what took place on that flight touches many, many people. Very sad Lapis no doubt ,it is also important for the system to be changed. Airlines must be aware .....stricter supervision can save lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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