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[Buddie]

Re: Canadian Eh? Pre and post withdrawal support
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2015, 03:12:33 am »
I'm in Orion. I'd like to at least do a documentary or something. The way the ice bucket challenge brought ALS to the forefront makes me think social media is a great way to start.
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[Buddie]

Re: Canadian Eh? Pre and post withdrawal support
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2015, 11:44:11 am »
I'm thinking of talking to my psychiatrist who understands and doing some type of educational seminar. I don't think benzos should be banned, as once upon a time ago they saved my life. But, I do think they should be used only in acute situations. Like flying, or after someone's first panic attack.

But, the word needs to get out of the big pharma sales reps are not doing their job properly.
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[Buddie]

Re: Canadian Eh? Pre and post withdrawal support
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2015, 11:48:03 pm »
Hello [...] and fellow Canadians.

I am just finished a hellish seven day wave.  Today I woke with only minor nausea.  Not too bad. :smitten:

Went to a local broomball tournament for a quick visit on the weekend and ended up winning a raffle draw.  Two tickets to a play!!!  I am excited! 

Off to Blue Mountain tomorrow for a school ski trip with my younger two who are 13 and 15.  So glad my wave hit last week and not this one.  Should be a fun day for all on the slopes.  I do enjoy the four seasons but the past couple of years have found winter a bit of a drag.

Cheers and blessings to each of you!

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[Buddie]

Re: Canadian Eh? Pre and post withdrawal support
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2015, 12:06:56 am »
I'm glad your on the mend [...]. I'm sorry to hear you had another wave. Do you mind me asking what symptoms you experience in a wave?

Blue mountain sounds fun. I hate winter, but we go to blue mountain a lot in the to go tree too trekking. I'm looking forward to getting into that again.

 :smitten:
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[Buddie]

Re: Canadian Eh? Pre and post withdrawal support
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2015, 12:54:33 am »
Hi [...]:

Good to hear from you.  Tree top trekking sounds cool.   I want to go to Collingwood this summer and try ziplining.  We are only two hours west, so it is not too far for a day trip. 

Last weekend I awoke around three am with my heart pounding like crazy and nausea that reminded me of morning sickness.  Then I felt panicky. This was every day last week.  Exact same symptoms I had near the laat month before I jumped from ativan.  Also zaps like my brain and body was short circuiting and the top of my head felt like fire was coming out of it.  Not to touch...just inside my head.  Also I was so tired that I had no energy and wanted to sleep all day.  So different than the adrenalin rushes of a year ago at this time. Felt pretty jumpy and depressed also.  So crazy!!!  Before ativan I was the happy go lucky one in the crowd all the time. Now my windows are getting longer..but those waves hit hard.  Then I wonder what else is wrong in my body.  I am thankful for this place to vent and share...then I feel normal.

Cheers!!

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[Buddie]

Re: Canadian Eh? Pre and post withdrawal support
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2015, 07:37:58 am »
I noticed that this thread hasn't been active for a coupla weeks or so, but [...] that it continues. Count me in as one more Canuck who is a benzo battler; most previous posters seem to be a lot further along in their journeys...inspiring to me at this point.

It seems (from what I've been able to find), that aside from this BB, Britain and maybe Australia have the most developed national/regional program protocols for dealing with the veritable tsunami of people struggling with benzos.

I'm an hour or so away from Toronto, and managed to get in to CAMH (the old Queen St. facility, now an evolving/aspiring world class mental health 'campus') for an assessment last fall. The med student who took my info was great, and I was impressed by the addictions specialist doc I saw.

I would love to go back on a regular basis, but winter and transportation challenges have put that plan on hold for now; I do [...] to return in the spring. In the meantime, I'm lucky enough to have a GP that is cooperative re: Ashton. But I sure envy those folks in Britain able to access med staff and groups who are totally benzo savvy.

In all my i'net searches, I've yet to come across any sort of benzo support group or whatever??, anywhere in Ontario-let alone more remote parts of the country. I guess a person is just fortunate if they can find any sort of at least semi-informed help.

It would be great if we could keep this thread going, and share any assistance/info/experiences we've had. If I was 'further along,' and had more chutzpah right now, I'd go around carrying a huge sign with "Beware Benzos!!!" emblazoned on it.

Over the past couple of decades at least one person has attempted to have legislation re: dispensing of benzos changed in Parliament, but nothing has really changed. Even when one of Harper's [...]'s in Sask. committed suicide last year, everyone chose to focus on the fact that he suffered from depression...when the poor guy was also on benzos-that fact was just glossed over as irrelevant.

Wouldn't it be nice if enough grass roots support for benzo reform met with enough political/medical will to actually effect some real change? How many of us are out here with minimal help, trying to feel our way through the huge challenge of getting off benzos?
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[Buddie]

Re: Canadian Eh? Pre and post withdrawal support
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2015, 04:17:10 pm »
Hi Bab,

Thanks for reviving the thread and welcome to the club no one wants to be in. I agree with everything you stated in your post. Yes, it would be nice if there was a "meeting of the minds" of medical/political powers....but unfortunately doctors are well intentioned but misinformed and politicians have "bigger fish to fry". Not that I plan on giving up. I don't want to remain silent about these drugs. Once the worst is over and I have the stamina to see something through I'd like to try and make an impact. I don't know how yet, but it's definitely a goal.

I'm an hour North of Toronto.....what direction are you in?

Nice to meet you  :smitten:
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[Buddie]

Re: Canadian Eh? Pre and post withdrawal support
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2015, 08:04:24 am »
Hi [...] (et al., eh). Thanks very much for the welcome to this thread, and also to the sooo not fun benzo club we are such extremely INvoluntary members of, grrr. And yeah, all the political/medical lack of will and info when it comes to benzo awareness sure is frustrating; it's hard to believe the first studies to link benzos with addiction came out around the early 80's (or so?!), and look where we are today  :crazy:.

If it was general knowledge that smoking wasn't such a great thing by the late 50's/early 60's, it seems it took around 20-30 years to really see a dramatic shift in laws and attitudes; the idea of driving drunk has gone through a similar metamorphosis over the past few decades. So why are people still getting hooked on benzos in such numbers? Why aren't there HUGE [literal] warning signs all over the place?

Benzos look like such harmless little pills-maybe they should each be the size of a pizza, to emphasize the power of the lil' suckers?!  Somehow, there's GOT to be some way to power through the self-interest/inertia/ignorance and get a "Beware Benzos" sort of campaign with some real traction.

Maybe we should um, invent, a benzo-meth connection, or benzo-heroin or ??? Or chain ourselves to the Parliament buildings, or have sit-ins in provincial and federal offices of health ministers? Seriously, I think obnoxious noise may be the only way to go; we've just been too polite, and easy to disregard.

I'm not eager to have family/friends etc. see me on the news or whatever (ewwww!), but if that's what it takes, I may be up for that some day; I've worked in journalism, so at least I have a bit of insider knowledge. For now, all my energy is going into working my way off this insidious stuff, but it's looking like such a long term project that maybe I won't wait to take at least some modest steps towards benzo awareness.

Don't want to be all talk and no action, but I think it'd be great to at least kick around even fantasy! ideas re: the above. What's that Margaret Mead quote..."Never underestimate the power of a small number of people to effect positive change" or something like that?! I really [...] we can keep this Canuck Connection going; I know I'm a total newbie here, and I know we all have our journeys to navigate and times we just have to take care of ourselves.

But at any given time, there must be a number of us who can keep fanning the flames of benzo awareness/reduction etc. I guess that's my rant quotient for now...oh and btw [...], I'm about an hour and change west of TO. Here's wishing strength and [at least eventual] serenity to us all.

                                                                       Bab  :thumbsup:
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[Buddie]

Re: Canadian Eh? Pre and post withdrawal support
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2015, 08:12:26 am »
Since it looks like our Canuck thread has been a bit quiet for a few days, just thought I'd stop by and say 'hi'-and I [...] everyone's taking it one day a time, doing as best we each can (both weather wise, and in our benzo journeys). I'm not the hugest fan of heat and humidity, but with all the snow in S. Ont. lately, it makes a person reconsider hibernation as an option; I've spent some really coooold years in N. Ont., and out on the howling prairies, too, so I'm not merely a 'southern [Canada] softie.

Everything just seems so much more difficult with the cold and snow, especially if something like flossing your teeth feels like climbing Mt. Everest. Right now getting started for the day for me is akin to getting an unplugged car engine to fire up after a -20 night, as in ick/bleah. Once I manage to extricate myself from a warm bed, I find it's best to simply try not to think at all, until I can manage not to feel like total shite.

It's all very well to do the 'cognitive behaviour therapy' positive self talk and all-just not for a while. Put one foot in front of the other/dress/feed animals/eat etc., until grim inertia can be overcome and I feel at least quasi-human. Right now my main sxs are a sort of back neuralgia(?) i.e. hyper dorsal ganglia or something, and sweats throughout the day and night.

On the bright side, one can save on heating bills (even the cats give me resentful looks re: the lower temperature as opposed to previous years), and it's a snap to cool off simply by opening a window. The fact that for the past few months my sweats have been enveloping me at regular 3ish hour intervals is a tad exhausting; on the other hand, it takes away the bother of checking one's watch or phone to a large extent. Wow, how lucky can ya get?!



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[Buddie]

Re: Canadian Eh? Pre and post withdrawal support
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2015, 04:33:23 pm »
Hi [...],

You aren't kidding.....brrrrr!!!! I also lived in northern Ontario for a long time, and tell you the truth I don't remember it being as cold as the last couple winters here in southern Ontario. Maybe it's because I was younger and didn't mind....who knows. All I know now is that I avoid going outside now at all costs. I need to live somewhere that the air doesn't hurt my face when I take out the garbage  :D

Where are all the fellow Canucks?!?!?
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