Author Topic: Anyone else find the salmon wrecks them?  (Read 1191 times)

[Buddie]

Anyone else find the salmon wrecks them?
« on: February 03, 2023, 11:46:29 am »
I am in bed in absolute agony mentally and physically I have eaten salmon twice over a period of months apart the last time it was Farm salmon and I thought that that was possibly the problem because it was farmed . This time I eat wild salmon and this is also put me back into hell I can barely lift my head up off the bed the pain burning and mental state I am in is terrible. 🥲

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[Buddie]

Re: Anyone else find the salmon wrecks them?
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2023, 02:09:17 pm »
No, but this horrible drug is doing a million things to  me in [...] so I wouldn't be surprised. I hope you fell better soon!
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[Buddie]

Re: Anyone else find the salmon wrecks them?
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2023, 02:16:40 pm »
 :hug: Thnx BD  :smitten:
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[Buddie]

Re: Anyone else find the salmon wrecks them?
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2023, 02:39:02 pm »
Yes, I have thought that also.  I stopped eating canned salmon for the past 2 years because I believed I saw a symptom increase.  Lately, I have gone back to eating it on occasion.  As well as fresh salmon.  Symptoms increase every time, but not for more than a week or so now.  And not at as uncomfortable a level.  I live in Minnesota and with the winter wearing on, I wanted a more natural alternative to vitamin D3 supplements.  Less sun exposure, you know.  And I know that D3 is abundant in salmon (as well as egg yolks, by the way) and is essential for mental health and strong immune function.  I never tried the supplements more than once after my withdrawal, due to the extreme reaction (I understand that many folks report this, also).  And I used to take a wide range of supplements, including D3, for years before the Benzos (had 2 bouts of Lyme disease back then).  Just too uncomfortable now.  So my current thinking is that the natural D3 in salmon may actually be helping me heal, just at maybe too intense a level yet to be real comfortable with, and the vitamin D3 supplement may just be too harsh or incomplete enough to be tolerated at the moment.  I have wondered about the mercury content (and mercury affects the CNS, as I understand it) that may be in the salmon, but wild-caught is supposed to be the better salmon choice, so I'm not sure what to think about that angle.  Hence, I don't eat salmon often.

I can't really understand where to draw the line with my choices during this recovery hell.  Do I force healing a little more over time, with more exercise and/or adding foods?  Do I avoid anything that makes me feel worse?  In other words, is feeling worse always bad?  How does one know the difference between prolonging the damage and assisting the healing?  My conclusion is that anything that is natural/nutrition-based and not drug/synthetic-based is bound to be good; anything that naturally prompts the body to do what it was designed to do is good; anything that you introduce into your body that mimics or tries to take the place of a natural part of the body eco system (as in drugs) is unsustainable and bound to be unhelpful.

Symptoms are a given in the healing process.  Some symptoms may indicate that healing is being delayed, as in the case of messing around with trying to artificially manipulate body functions with lab chemicals, and some symptoms are the body actually healing more efficiently, as in the case of eating salmon, maybe(?).  Supporting the body as it does its own thing is the best way to go.  Our puny human brains can't compete with the perfect, intricately connected, miraculous, mysterious system that our bodies have perfected over all this time.  We always get into trouble when we interfere with that perfection.  At least that's my current, two-cent's worth:)

Keep up the fight.  Try to stay positive.  Trust in your body to know how to get there.  Be a friend to yourself.  Don't rush perfection.  And know that you are not alone and that YOU WILL HEAL!!
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[Buddie]

Re: Anyone else find the salmon wrecks them?
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2023, 03:36:32 pm »
Hi [...]  :hug: If only there was a way to differentiate between healing Symptoms or just actual pain and physical distress,  and unfortunately  Salmon definitely does no favours for me every time I have stopped and then tried it again the result is always the same I end up feeling crucified and bedridden. So itís definitely a no-no  again.

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[Buddie]

Re: Anyone else find the salmon wrecks them?
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2023, 07:15:26 pm »
I've wondered about this too. I definitely seemed to react to a Nordic Naturals omega 3 supplement made from sardines, so I've tried to get them through food sources, including salmon and sardines. I haven't made a clear link between eating these items and increased symptoms. I can't tell if my symptoms were bad anyway or if they went up due to the fish. It's really hard to pinpoint causation. I'm sorry it has affected you so badly. Hope your symptoms improve soon, [...].
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[Buddie]

Re: Anyone else find the salmon wrecks them?
« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2023, 05:32:33 pm »
Sending hugs!! Yes I had to cut out salmon early bc it caused me to get very sick(and I used to eat 2x a week before this!).

Every time I try after 5-6mo same result so I will be waiting until Iím off med and then maybe 6mo post taper Iíll try again. Our bodies get very reactive in this for various reasons but in the end, they work their way back to homeostasis. So just eat what doesnít flare you up and know one day as things calm down again youíll likely be able to have salmon again!
Hugs and hoping you have some better moments soon!!
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[Buddie]

Re: Anyone else find the salmon wrecks them?
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2023, 05:40:14 pm »
Salmon is high histamine for a lot of people, unless you get it fresh caught and gutted and then eat it right away.

Ie. You have to basically get it right from the fisherman off the boat.

If it is frozen right away after being caught it might me ok, but I still have problems.

When I was just on Ativan I could eat it no problem.

I have friends who run a company that get fresh fish right off the boat and freeze it right away.

Still canít touch it.

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[Buddie]

Re: Anyone else find the salmon wrecks them?
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2023, 06:22:12 pm »
What are the typical symptoms of not tolerating salmon for those of you who don't?
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[Buddie]

Re: Anyone else find the salmon wrecks them?
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2023, 02:58:53 am »
You grab you head and scream for 2.5 to 3 hrs for the massive migraine that is swirling around your head!

You have massive Akathisia and run back and forth at top speed.

Worst experience of my life!

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