Author Topic: Seriously in need of help planning taper off Klonopin!  (Read 884 times)

[Buddie]

Seriously in need of help planning taper off Klonopin!
« on: February 01, 2023, 02:34:07 am »
I知 very frustrated and I致e posted multiple times without much luck. I really need help with a tapering plan, the way to cut my pills, how to know how much I need to reduce each day or week, etc. I知 so lost because when I was tapering X I just made 0.5 cuts in rapid succession until I crashed and was nonfunctional, ended updosing and my signature explains the rest. So I have no idea what I am doing and I知 honestly ready to just cut my K by 0.5 mgs (1 mg tablets, no score line) and see how I feel. I am sick of this whole thing and I feel like I spent over a year spinning my wheels and setting myself up to be kindled. I知 really no better than I was when I started this journey over a year ago except I am at a slightly lower dose (by 1 mg)
If I had done this the right way I would probably be really close to being off benzos right now. It痴 discouraging.  :-[
Suggestions, opinions and/or advice provided by the author of this post should not be regarded as medical advice; nor should it substitute for professional medical care. Consult your doctor before making any changes to your medication. Please read our Community Policy Documents board for further information.

[Buddie]

Re: Seriously in need of help planning taper off Klonopin!
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2023, 04:10:57 am »
Hi looking through a glass darkly,

What milligram tablets do you have? I was on 3 milligrams of kpin myself and I did a simple dry cut method.
With my taper I went to fast and now I知 cutting a lower percentage the lower I get in dose. I知 doing a slow taper from here on out. In my opinion a slow taper is so much better than a fast taper.  You could see in my signature.

Jacky♥️
Suggestions, opinions and/or advice provided by the author of this post should not be regarded as medical advice; nor should it substitute for professional medical care. Consult your doctor before making any changes to your medication. Please read our Community Policy Documents board for further information.

[Buddie]

Re: Seriously in need of help planning taper off Klonopin!
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2023, 04:43:22 pm »
Hi looking through a glass darkly,

What milligram tablets do you have? I was on 3 milligrams of kpin myself and I did a simple dry cut method.
With my taper I went to fast and now I知 cutting a lower percentage the lower I get in dose. I知 doing a slow taper from here on out. In my opinion a slow taper is so much better than a fast taper.  You could see in my signature.

Jacky♥️

1 mg tablets for the rest of the month. I can probably get 0.5 next month. Do you use a scale and weigh your cuts?
Suggestions, opinions and/or advice provided by the author of this post should not be regarded as medical advice; nor should it substitute for professional medical care. Consult your doctor before making any changes to your medication. Please read our Community Policy Documents board for further information.

[Buddie]

Re: Seriously in need of help planning taper off Klonopin!
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2023, 05:12:39 pm »
You should look at bob7 method on how to keep yourself organized while taking your dose everyday with a log book and pill organizer. That痴 very important.  You should ask you doctor for .5 mg tablets they are easier to cut.
The best scale I used is a Gemini 20 scale. I hope someone else can stop by to explain everything in more detail.
Remember to get a pill organizer box and a phone alarm to remind you about your dose and very important is to have a log book.

This is bob7 s method and it helped me tremendously
https://benzodrytapermath.com/
Suggestions, opinions and/or advice provided by the author of this post should not be regarded as medical advice; nor should it substitute for professional medical care. Consult your doctor before making any changes to your medication. Please read our Community Policy Documents board for further information.

[Buddie]

Re: Seriously in need of help planning taper off Klonopin!
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2023, 07:03:20 pm »
You should look at bob7 method on how to keep yourself organized while taking your dose everyday with a log book and pill organizer. That痴 very important.  You should ask you doctor for .5 mg tablets they are easier to cut.
The best scale I used is a Gemini 20 scale. I hope someone else can stop by to explain everything in more detail.
Remember to get a pill organizer box and a phone alarm to remind you about your dose and very important is to have a log book.

This is bob7 s method and it helped me tremendously
https://benzodrytapermath.com/

Yes I plan on asking for smaller pills or liquid. I a pill organizer and I already keep alarms on my phone and iPad for my doses now, and did when I was tapering before. I also kept a notebook. The math goes right over my head. I can稚 grasp any of that. I probably sound stupid but at this point all of that sounds like an advanced course in Mandarin and my brain isn稚 registering any of it.  :-[
Suggestions, opinions and/or advice provided by the author of this post should not be regarded as medical advice; nor should it substitute for professional medical care. Consult your doctor before making any changes to your medication. Please read our Community Policy Documents board for further information.

[Buddie]

Re: Seriously in need of help planning taper off Klonopin!
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2023, 08:07:12 pm »
This thread has detailed information on how to weigh your pills and how to do the maths http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=273984.0
Suggestions, opinions and/or advice provided by the author of this post should not be regarded as medical advice; nor should it substitute for professional medical care. Consult your doctor before making any changes to your medication. Please read our Community Policy Documents board for further information.

[Buddie]

Re: Seriously in need of help planning taper off Klonopin!
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2023, 08:33:49 pm »
This thread has detailed information on how to weigh your pills and how to do the maths http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=273984.0

9 pages just to figure out how to make a reduction? I can稚 do this! I知 just going to end up rapid tapering or something. I知 so screwed
Suggestions, opinions and/or advice provided by the author of this post should not be regarded as medical advice; nor should it substitute for professional medical care. Consult your doctor before making any changes to your medication. Please read our Community Policy Documents board for further information.

[Buddie]

Re: Seriously in need of help planning taper off Klonopin!
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2023, 09:50:34 pm »
This thread has detailed information on how to weigh your pills and how to do the maths http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=273984.0

9 pages just to figure out how to make a reduction? I can稚 do this! I知 just going to end up rapid tapering or something. I知 so screwed

Looking through, don稚 taper quickly, you most likely will have to reinstate if you taper quickly because it will be awful for awhile.
I never weighed my pills and I was able to cut my pills. I did specifically ask my doctor for .5 mg and.125mg pills.
You could do this. When I first started I couldn稚 hold two thoughts together and forget about math, I was lost. But dry cutting my pills has been successful so far. I don稚 think I will use any compounding pharmacy. I値l keep cutting my dose as much as I can until I jump.
You could do this too.  :thumbsup:
Suggestions, opinions and/or advice provided by the author of this post should not be regarded as medical advice; nor should it substitute for professional medical care. Consult your doctor before making any changes to your medication. Please read our Community Policy Documents board for further information.

[Buddie]

Re: Seriously in need of help planning taper off Klonopin!
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2023, 11:04:38 pm »
If you wish to begin tapering before your next appointment with your prescriber, here痴 a simple approach for your consideration .

Take 1mg in the morning and 1mg in the evening as usual.

For your middle daily dose, split a 1mg tablet into quarters using a high-quality pill splitter.  Take 3 of the resulting 4 pieces (about 0.75mg).  If you are concerned about the possibility that the Active Pharmaceutical Ingredient (API) in your tablets is not evenly distributed, save the extra quarter tablets from Days 1 -3.  On Day 4, take all three of the extra quarters.  (This will ensure that you consume all of the API in those tablets.) Repeat this process for Days 5-8 etc.

This will be 8.33% reduction in dose.  It is within our general guideline of 5-10% and should be tolerable given your relatively high starting dose.

Keep a daily taper log.  Use the data in the log to determine your withdrawal pattern that is, how many days does it take for withdrawal symptoms to emerge, peak, and stabilize (i.e. stop changing in nature and number and become tolerable).  Note: Clonazepam has a relatively long half-life; it can take one to two weeks for a dose change to fully 喪egister.

As I shared in a previous post, you sound like a good candidate for a combination approach using lower dose clonazepam tablets and a professionally compounded liquid.  Here痴 what Stage 1 of such a taper might look like:

0.5mg in tablet form + 0.5mg in liquid form, taper liquid to zero as tolerable
0.5mg in tablet form + 0.5mg in liquid form, taper liquid to zero as tolerable
0.5mg in tablet form + 0.5mg in liquid form, taper liquid to zero as tolerable

To implement the above plan, you would need to find and vet a compounding pharmacist. Also, your prescriber would need to write two prescriptions one for the tablets and one for the compound.

ADDDENDUM: I should have added one of the major advantages of finding and working with a reputable compounding pharmacist is they should be willing to help you with the math. 
« Last Edit: February 02, 2023, 12:01:41 am by [Buddie] »
Suggestions, opinions and/or advice provided by the author of this post should not be regarded as medical advice; nor should it substitute for professional medical care. Consult your doctor before making any changes to your medication. Please read our Community Policy Documents board for further information.

[Buddie]

Re: Seriously in need of help planning taper off Klonopin!
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2023, 11:49:12 pm »
This thread has detailed information on how to weigh your pills and how to do the maths http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php?topic=273984.0

9 pages just to figure out how to make a reduction? I can稚 do this! I知 just going to end up rapid tapering or something. I知 so screwed

Looking through, don稚 taper quickly, you most likely will have to reinstate if you taper quickly because it will be awful for awhile.
I never weighed my pills and I was able to cut my pills. I did specifically ask my doctor for .5 mg and.125mg pills.
You could do this. When I first started I couldn稚 hold two thoughts together and forget about math, I was lost. But dry cutting my pills has been successful so far. I don稚 think I will use any compounding pharmacy. I値l keep cutting my dose as much as I can until I jump.
You could do this too.  :thumbsup:

How are you getting the amounts in your signature if you don稚 weigh them? How specifically do you cut your pills to those doses? See how lost I am?  :-\
Suggestions, opinions and/or advice provided by the author of this post should not be regarded as medical advice; nor should it substitute for professional medical care. Consult your doctor before making any changes to your medication. Please read our Community Policy Documents board for further information.