Author Topic: Why is titration tapering better?  (Read 1592 times)

[Buddie]

Why is titration tapering better?
« on: October 15, 2019, 09:21:31 pm »
From what I have read, titration tapering is dissolving the pill in the water and taking it as a liquid. How is that any better compared to regular tapering?
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[Buddie]

Re: Why is titration tapering better?
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2019, 11:43:56 pm »
From what I have read, titration tapering is dissolving the pill in the water and taking it as a liquid. How is that any better compared to regular tapering?
Because it allows you to make dose reductions as small as .01 (hundredth) of a mg, or even .001 (thousandth) of a mg.

And BTW, you can  NOT dissolve it in water!  You must start with an effective solvent like vodka (alcohol) or propylene glycol.
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[Buddie]

Re: Why is titration tapering better?
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2019, 06:22:45 am »
You dissolve it in Alcohol? Could you explain that further because that doesn't make sense to me?
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[Buddie]

Re: Why is titration tapering better?
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2019, 04:11:25 pm »
You dissolve it in Alcohol? Could you explain that further because that doesn't make sense to me?

There are several different ways to titrate benzo's. Here is some information that may help you with making a decision on what way will work best for you.





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[Buddie]

Re: Why is titration tapering better?
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2019, 08:29:14 pm »
Hi all,

If someone would double check Guruna's numbers, it would be greatly appreciated. No disrespect to [...] - her efforts are greatly appreciated - but since the post is so well presented, it might appear as they have been thoroughly vetted, but we do not know this to be the case.

Irrespective, thank you [...]. It looks interesting. I will try to look over the numbers myself later/tomorrow.
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[Buddie]

Re: Why is titration tapering better?
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2019, 08:48:18 pm »
By looking at this graph, it looks like one might as well do a water taper off of klonopin. Not very soluble at all. Do you know the origin of this graph? I would like to know the solubility of benzo's in PG. Probably less. 
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[Buddie]

Re: Why is titration tapering better?
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2019, 09:09:22 pm »
I don't think the chart is correct in how much alcohol or PG to mix with a benzo to dissolve it. 

You usually need 2 ml of alcohol for each mg of the benzo.  Then you add 8 ml of water for each mg of the benzo if you want to create a solution that has a ratio of 1mg of the benzo for each 10ml of the solution.
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[Buddie]

Re: Why is titration tapering better?
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2019, 09:17:48 pm »
I don't think the chart is correct in how much alcohol or PG to mix with a benzo to dissolve it. 

You usually need 2 ml of alcohol for each mg of the benzo.  Then you add 8 ml of water for each mg of the benzo if you want to create a solution that has a ratio of 1mg of the benzo for each 10ml of the solution.

That is what I thought and have been doing. We don't need more confusion on this. I did not think it was accurate.
Appreciate your input.

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[Buddie]

Re: Why is titration tapering better?
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2019, 09:37:15 pm »
Actually, I will go further.  It appears to me that most of the information on the chart is wrong regarding how much alcohol to use to mix with the benzo as well as how much water to add.

As I wrote, typically, you want to use 2 ml of alcohol for each mg of the benzo.  You then want to add 8 ml of water for each ml of the benzo to give you a solution where 1 ml of the solution is equal to .1 mg of the benzo. 

Some people may even want to dilute it more--for example after using 2 ml of alcohol to dilute each mg of the benzo, then add 18ml of water to the mix.  This will give you a mix where each ml of the mix is equal to .05 mg of the benzo.  A reason for this would be if you want a mix where the alcohol is more diluted.
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[Buddie]

Re: Why is titration tapering better?
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2019, 10:27:09 pm »
Exactly. I totally agree with you. Again, this will create more confusion for those really not familiar with the method. The one that has been in place has worked fine. It has worked for me.  :)
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