Author Topic: HOME MADE TITRATION LIQUID V PRESCRIPTION LIQUID ANYONE FIND ONE WORKED BETTER?  (Read 1835 times)

[Buddie]

Home made titration liquid V Prescription Liquid anyone find one worked better? 


Hi did anyone find that home made titration liquid was problematic but prescription liquid worked fine? I'm asking because the last time I tried liquid titration using a home made liquid using vodka it was hell for over a year, cut and hold is also hell,  and today I'll be trying the prescription 5mg/5ml Diazepam liquid praying for a better result this time 🙏

[...] xxx  :smitten: :smitten:
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[Buddie]

My drugstore is a compounding Pharmacy so they make mine for me, so I have no clue.  Maybe someone else can chime in...but I just want to say good luck 🍀and I wish you a smooth ride, friend! ❤ BLL
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[Buddie]

Home made titration liquid V Prescription Liquid anyone find one worked better? 


Hi did anyone find that home made titration liquid was problematic but prescription liquid worked fine? I'm asking because the last time I tried liquid titration using a home made liquid using vodka it was hell for over a year, cut and hold is also hell,  and today I'll be trying the prescription 5mg/5ml Diazepam liquid praying for a better result this time 🙏

[...] xxx  :smitten: :smitten:
"Sista" You know my story, I have done well on homemade liquid after the first two weeks, and stopping and going back. I would think it would be easier with the prescription liq, I am not sure if it has to be diluted, but it should come with instructions. Wishing the best for you my Friend, and just take a breath and when you take your first dose give the "what if's" to the universe, you will be OK, you are such a strong [...] and I am always rooting for you. Stay Strong. 💖 Peace and Healing. :smitten:
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[Buddie]

Home made titration liquid V Prescription Liquid anyone find one worked better? 


Hi did anyone find that home made titration liquid was problematic but prescription liquid worked fine? I'm asking because the last time I tried liquid titration using a home made liquid using vodka it was hell for over a year, cut and hold is also hell,  and today I'll be trying the prescription 5mg/5ml Diazepam liquid praying for a better result this time 🙏

[...] xxx  :smitten: :smitten:
"Sista" You know my story, I have done well on homemade liquid after the first two weeks, and stopping and going back. I would think it would be easier with the prescription liq, I am not sure if it has to be diluted, but it should come with instructions. Wishing the best for you my Friend, and just take a breath and when you take your first dose give the "what if's" to the universe, you will be OK, you are such a strong [...] and I am always rooting for you. Stay Strong. 💖 Peace and Healing. :smitten:
Thanks Sista'  :hug: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
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[Buddie]

My drugstore is a compounding Pharmacy so they make mine for me, so I have no clue.  Maybe someone else can chime in...but I just want to say good luck 🍀and I wish you a smooth ride, friend! ❤ BLL
Thanks BBL'  :hug: :smitten: :smitten:  :smitten:
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[Buddie]

Home-made will work just as well.  Its typically the same 3 ingredients, benzo, solvent, and water.  The Rx will typically have some stabiizers, flavorants, colorants,  etc added, but they play no role in its efficacy.

Given a choice, I would choose Rx liquid, only because it's more convenient.  But making your own is about as difficult as adding cream and sugar to your morning beverage. 

And there are several reasons I would be reluctant to use a locally compounded liquid.
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[Buddie]

In my opinion, using a prescription liquid is the preferred choice. Not because it is more convenient, but because it has been tested for safety and effectiveness by appropriately qualified professionals. 
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[Buddie]

In my opinion, using a prescription liquid is the preferred choice. Not because it is more convenient, but because it has been tested for safety and effectiveness by appropriately qualified professionals.

And I fully agree with all of that. If you have the option of Rx liquid, choose that option.

But since many docs seem reluctant to cooperate with that concept, with just a minimum of care, folks can make a fully-functional, safe liquid alternative at home.

My doc was completely willing to Rx my liquid V, so it was never an issue for me.  But had I not had that option, I would definitely done the vodka method.
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[Buddie]

In my opinion, using a prescription liquid is the preferred choice. Not because it is more convenient, but because it has been tested for safety and effectiveness by appropriately qualified professionals.

And I fully agree with all of that. If you have the option of Rx liquid, choose that option.

But since many docs seem reluctant to cooperate with that concept, with just a minimum of care, folks can make a fully-functional, safe liquid alternative at home.

My doc was completely willing to Rx my liquid V, so it was never an issue for me.  But had I not had that option, I would definitely done the vodka method.
Iím glad we agree on that point, [...]!

How do we know that the homemade liquids are fully-functional and safe?  Is there empirical evidence to support this?  For each of the different benzodiazepines?  If so, can you provide us with references to supporting research?  [...] reports?  I am aware of Jouyban et alís work on solubility but testing an active pharmaceutical ingredient for solubility is not the same thing as testing a liquid made from a different drug source (i.e. Rx tablets) for safety and effectiveness when ingested by humans.
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[Buddie]

Iím glad we agree on that point, [...]!

How do we know that the homemade liquids are fully-functional and safe?  Is there empirical evidence to support this?  For each of the different benzodiazepines?  If so, can you provide us with references to supporting research?  [...] reports?  I am aware of Jouyban et alís work on solubility but testing an active pharmaceutical ingredient for solubility is not the same thing as testing a liquid made from a different drug source (i.e. Rx tablets) for safety and effectiveness when ingested by humans.

I don't mean to sound dismissive, but even in the absence of "[...] reports", the logic is overwhelming.  As noted, there is clear evidence that both PG and alcohol are effective benzo solvent.  (and the pharma companies use the same solvents).  People safely consume vodka, and water, and apparently everyone here consumes benzos. And almost all of use products containing PG every day.

And as skeptical as I am about anecdotal evidence, the anecdotal success of home-brew liquid is pretty overwhelming.

Are there [...] tests that show adding sugar to your coffee does not create some toxic by-product?

In the absence of research that would show that there are downsides to mixing 3  common ingredients (water, vodka, benzo), I will rely on the overwhelming logic that says its a no-risk option.

And for the (many) that do not have the option of Rx liquid, are they doomed to a cut&suffer taper?
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