Author Topic: Help with Liquid prescription Valium  (Read 3919 times)

[Buddie]

Help with Liquid prescription Valium
« on: July 17, 2019, 02:40:47 pm »
Hi, I currently take 2.5.mg [...] and I want to switch to the prescription liquid. I am.guessing that would be the 5ml/5mg oral solution unless there is another one available. O know I need to add liquid to it to be able to make micro cuts.

Could someone tell me how much water to add and what the ratio would be? Any advice would be appreciated.  Thank you.
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[Buddie]

Re: Help with Liquid prescription Valium
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2019, 03:14:47 pm »
Hi, I currently take 2.5.mg [...] and I want to switch to the prescription liquid. I am.guessing that would be the 5ml/5mg oral solution unless there is another one available. O know I need to add liquid to it to be able to make micro cuts.

Could someone tell me how much water to add and what the ratio would be? Any advice would be appreciated.  Thank you.

There is another liquid V, Diazepam Intensol, but you do not want that. Its a 5mg=1ml concentrate.  The 5mg=5ml (1mg:1ml)  Diazepam Oral Solution   is the right option.

Dilute it 9:1 with water, and you have a very convenient .1mg=1ml dilute solution.
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[Buddie]

Re: Help with Liquid prescription Valium
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2019, 03:20:02 pm »
Thank you. Can you explain exactly what the 9:1 ratio is. Is that 9ml of water to 1ml of diazapam?  I'm not good with the math.

I'm confused with the .1mg/ml.  How much would I take to get 2.5 mg.  I apologize, its confusing to me. Thank you.
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Re: Help with Liquid prescription Valium
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2019, 04:01:41 pm »
Thank you. Can you explain exactly what the 9:1 ratio is. Is that 9ml of water to 1ml of diazapam?  I'm not good with the math.

I'm confused with the .1mg/ml.  How much would I take to get 2.5 mg.  I apologize, its confusing to me. Thank you.

Yes, 9:1 means 9ml water for each 1ml of your Rx liquid.  You started with a 1mg=1ml solution, so if you dilute 9:1m then your solution will be .1mg=1ml.

Then 2.5mg would be 25ml.  See, no real math, just move the decimal point.

So if you wanted to cut .01mg/14 days (approx 5%/14 days), you would take...

2.5mg               25ml
2.49mg             24.9ml
2.48mg             24.8ml
2.47mg             24,8ml
etc....
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[Buddie]

Re: Help with Liquid prescription Valium
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2019, 04:25:08 pm »
Thank you for your help. That makes sense.  I also have Ativan to taper and currently take the liquid and it was suggested I switch to liquid [...] slowly and then slowly taper both at same time.  I know that's not recommended but it was suggested better to keep benzo levels the same.
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Re: Help with Liquid prescription Valium
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2019, 04:32:07 pm »
Thank you. Can you explain exactly what the 9:1 ratio is. Is that 9ml of water to 1ml of diazapam?  I'm not good with the math.

I'm confused with the .1mg/ml.  How much would I take to get 2.5 mg.  I apologize, its confusing to me. Thank you.

Hello [...]-

Here is another option that may help to keep thing simple for you. Do not dilute the liquid. Dilution is not necessary with [...] as it is 20x less potent than klonopin or xanax.

So if you were to dose with your pharma liquid as is, your dose would look like this:
2.50mg             2.50ml
2.49mg             2.49ml
2.48mg             2.48ml
2.47mg             2.47ml
etc....


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If you use a 1ml tuberculin syringe like this you just measure out 1 line less everyday.
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Re: Help with Liquid prescription Valium
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2019, 04:43:50 pm »
I currently take 1.5mg at 8 a.m. and 1 mg at noon. Would I still be able to do micro doses without diluting it?
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Re: Help with Liquid prescription Valium
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2019, 04:52:30 pm »
I currently take 1.5mg at 8 a.m. and 1 mg at noon. Would I still be able to do micro doses without diluting it?

Yes, dosing would look like this reducing .01ml per day:
 
1.5ml      1ml
1.49ml    1ml
1.49ml    .99ml
1.48ml    .99ml
1.48ml    .98ml

Just alternate which dose you reduce .01 from each day (if that is the rate you are going to reduce)
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Re: Help with Liquid prescription Valium
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2019, 05:00:36 pm »
Just FYI, the mfgr's label on the 5mg=5ml Diazepam Oral Solution says  "Dilute before using..."


Yes, you can use it undiluted, but dilution makes it much easier to measure out your doses (.1ml is easier to measure than .01ml) and dramatically reduces the error factor.
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Re: Help with Liquid prescription Valium
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2019, 06:16:24 pm »
Just FYI, the mfgr's label on the 5mg=5ml Diazepam Oral Solution says "Dilute before using..."


Yes, you can use it undiluted, but dilution makes it much easier to measure out your doses (.1ml is easier to measure than .01ml) and dramatically reduces the error factor.

The Intensol must be diluted not the 5ml/5mg

It is my opinion there is more of a chance of error when diluting.

My reasoning is that if one were to dilute by filling a 10ml syringe 10 times to make a 100ml batch @ 1mg=10ml and measurements were off bysay .10ml each draw that would equal a total 1ml or .10mg each 100ml batch.

If one were to draw 1ml from a 5mg=5ml undiluted pharma solution and were off  .01ml (the same amount proportionally) that would be equal to .01mg.  So it stands to reason that there is a 90% more of a chance  of error when diluting.

And then when diluting you also have the contamination factor to consider as well. So why mess with something when it is not necessary.

I do recall reading somewhere that accuracy was not important and consistency was all that matters.

What ever works best for the individual... :)
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