Author Topic: How I tapered the end  (Read 2388 times)

[Buddie]

How I tapered the end
« on: January 24, 2023, 07:51:04 pm »
I'm making this post because I know how much I struggled to figure out how to proceed with tapering the low numbers. Hopefully this will help someone.

It can be very tricky and difficult to decide how to taper when you hit the low numbers. The problem is tapering according to percentages is best but at some stage you need to switch to linear tapering otherwise youíll never finish tapering. If you think about it, the day you jump, your final cut will be a 100% cut. But determining when the correct time is to switch to linear tapering is tricky. And thereís no real guidance or rule of thumb. I went through countless signatures and was none the wiser. In the end I just experimented with mine. At 0.125mg I decided to go linear. Initially the plan was to micro taper at 0.001mg per day for a month and then do a two week hold after each month. But it was too much for me. At the three weeks mark I felt my symptoms increase. So I held my dose and changed my approach. I then tapered at 0.001mg per day for 7 days, holding 3 days. This worked for me. I tapered like this all the way to jumping with no problems. I jumped at 0.025mg.
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[Buddie]

Re: How I tapered the end
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2023, 08:57:46 pm »
Thanks JB!!! I am doing .01mg a month as of .15mg and below .11mg I was much better than most of last year. Starting to have aka back which is very hard for me and slowing down last year helped that a lot. However now donít know if I should hold a couple weeks and see how that goes or at .085mg if I just keep at .01mg down over a month (liquid micro) just is what needs to keep happening. Gaining some function back in Nov and Dec was wonderful even though I still had 20-30 symptoms.

This is all so hard to know what step to make! So glad you made it off and things were manageable for you at end of your taper!! Hugs and thanks for passing on info and being such a great support on here! 
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[Buddie]

Re: How I tapered the end
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2023, 11:48:37 pm »
I'm sorry the akathisia is returning - it must be terrible. I am very fortunate I never experienced it. If you had some improvement at the end of the year, then slowing down might help. It doesn't have to be either holding or tapering at 0.01mg. You can taper a tiny bit and then hold a bit. That's why I liked what I did at the end. It felt like I was still getting off and making progress while holding enough to recover. I'm not saying you have to follow my 7/3 plan, but just know you have different ways/options of moving forward. The most important thing to remember though is while you're on the drug you still have some level of control - once you're off there's no going back or holding trying to manage your symptoms.

Anyway you're so close to the end, you'll soon be jumping!  :smitten:
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[Buddie]

Re: How I tapered the end
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2023, 12:19:00 am »
Thanks for shedding some light on this topic jelly, Iíve wondered about this aspect of tapering.
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[Buddie]

Re: How I tapered the end
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2023, 12:25:45 am »
This is good to know for when I get there.  Jelly please save this post so when I ask you (again and again) you'll have it handy.  ;)
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[Buddie]

Re: How I tapered the end
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2023, 12:39:32 am »
Thanks JBÖ ya maybe I need to switch up the microtaper plan, I basically am holding at a particular ML for four days, then down another .05mL for
Four days, and it adds to a .01mg drop by end of 30
Days. So holding in a way but maybe I need to try out making a larger drop and holding for 2wks. I never did well with cut and hold after a certain point, .625mg I had to go over to micro bc a .03mg drop even at this higher dose brought on severe akathisia. Thankfully I made it to this point with microtaper but maybe Iíll adjust. Thanks again!!!

You and Nervouswreck are my go tos since yíall are jjsy off and getting weeks and months behind yíall! Hugs deal!  Yay!!!!
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[Buddie]

Re: How I tapered the end
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2023, 01:35:40 am »
This is good to know for when I get there.  Jelly please save this post so when I ask you (again and again) you'll have it handy.  ;)

It's good you're saying this now, because I'll lose it and then have to go search through all my endless ramblings on this forum for the one thing that actually made sense!  :laugh:
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[Buddie]

Re: How I tapered the end
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2023, 06:55:52 pm »
Thank you, j b, for posting this. I'm struggling trying to figure out what to do. I've jumped to 10%/14 cutting daily for the last three days and have been "OK." I'm not really any worse than I was going a bit slower. I'm considering, though, trying to go at .001 mg per day, as I've tried a few times in the past. Maybe this three days of holding thing is something that would work for me. All I can do is try... I'm so ready to be off at .098 mg K today and planning to jump at .025 mg.
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[Buddie]

Re: How I tapered the end
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2023, 08:28:16 pm »
Thank you, j b, for posting this. I'm struggling trying to figure out what to do. I've jumped to 10%/14 cutting daily for the last three days and have been "OK." I'm not really any worse than I was going a bit slower. I'm considering, though, trying to go at .001 mg per day, as I've tried a few times in the past. Maybe this three days of holding thing is something that would work for me. All I can do is try... I'm so ready to be off at .098 mg K today and planning to jump at .025 mg.

Yeah, finding a way to tackle the end is very tricky. We can only keep experimenting. Short holds definitely made it easier for me. Hope you find your sweet spot!
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[Buddie]

Re: How I tapered the end
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2023, 10:17:52 pm »
Thank you, j b, for posting this. I'm struggling trying to figure out what to do. I've jumped to 10%/14 cutting daily for the last three days and have been "OK." I'm not really any worse than I was going a bit slower. I'm considering, though, trying to go at .001 mg per day, as I've tried a few times in the past. Maybe this three days of holding thing is something that would work for me. All I can do is try... I'm so ready to be off at .098 mg K today and planning to jump at .025 mg.

Hi [...] (Eugene 😁),

Are you still doing the direct ClonazePam cut and weigh dry taper? You are very low and Iím so impressed!
Iím considering a water taper with the ClonazePam because I just canít get my scales to calibrate and it might be my house. So sensitive! I have someone setting up a plan for 5% cut each month. No clue, as usual, but Iíll give it a try. If all else fails Iíll have to cash out some stocks and try the compounding. I had so wished I could stick to the dry cut and hold, but my latest cut, which was only about 6% has me reeling late at night. I feel very insecure now knowing my dose weights are probably all off by way more than Iíd thought was okay.

If my calculations are correct I started at approx 330 grams (two 0.5 mg accord pills weighing approx 165 grams each) and am down to approx 0.265 grams almost two months in. That means Iíve cut 0.065 grams in two months. That would be 10% from each cut. I think I might need to switch to 5% cuts. Remember, I was eyeballing the first month. Why, oh why canít this be easier?

Sorry to rant. I wish you well on your cuts.
❤️
C
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