NAD+. Hope, for the hopeless. I'm free.

[[Buddie]]

Hi Fishyfish, thank you for coming back and telling everyone. Much appreciated all the more because PTSD can make it so hard!

There are clinics here in Chicagoland that administer NAD+ IV's. It seems to be more of a spa treatment than a medical one! Oddly, none of them seem to be connected with any naturopaths. I'll keep trying, but it's not looking good.

Was your NAD+ IV treatment tailored to your special needs, or was it a more generic treatment? Any specifics would be SUPER!!!

If I can make this work, I'll try it. Even if I have to go back and get another treatment every day for two weeks.

Many thanks!!! 

[[Buddie]]

How do I get this NAD+
Is it a supplement?
What is the $20,000 program?
I really need my life back for my child.
I’m on day 18 post benzo detox
Needing all the help I can get.
At this point I’d spend anything to completely heal myself of all this misery

[[Buddie]]

Here's the thing.  Most of the NAD+ you get online are going to come in 500 mg vials and cost about $350-500. This is generally injected into the fat layer of the skin due to pills efficacy being extremely limited during digestion.  Most of the marketing around the injectable type has to do with anti-aging. With that said, detox clinics are generally administering 1000-2000 mg in a single day via injecting the NAD+ into a saline bag and having that saline bag drip into you over a longer 3-5 hour timeframe.  They typically add other vitamins or amino acids in this cocktail to help your body accept the cocktail better.

Me personally, I have been experimenting with lower dose infusions during an expedited taper.  I have been cutting my doses in half approx every 2 weeks.  It's not completely withdrawal free, but it is way more manageable today than the first experiences of withdrawal I encountered. Currently, I am using cannabis after 10pm to sleep and take the NAD+ dose as recommended twice a week.

Is the NAD+ a placebo? Maybe.  But since I started this, I've found it easier to decrease my doses and the only PAWS symptom I encounter is very manageable back pain.  No more constant lingering headaches and no more difficulty breath and mucus mornings.  I've also considered that the same way we hit a xanax tolerance, we may also hit a withdrawal tolerance that helps you expect a certain level of discomfort, but also trains you to tolerate XYZ level of pain.  Regardless, I'm happy I have found something that works for me at the moment.

[[Buddie]]

I'm experimenting with the nasal mist form of NAD+. I just started, and am only doing one spray at the moment, to see how I tolerate it. The mist goes into the upper nasal passages and sinus cavities, where it gets absorbed quickly. I plan on starting a thread to share my observations and experiences, as I will be increasing from the 12.5mg dose I now take daily, to the usual 25mg starting dose.

Some inject it, some use an oral spray or sublingual lozenges, some use the nasal mist. I've been reading about it on Reddit and other forums as well. Most find that doing self injections or using the nasal mist, are the best way to inexpensively increase NAD+ in the body. Feedback from the majority injecting 25mg to 50 mg daily, or using the nasal mist from 25mg to 50mg daily, has been mostly positive. It takes consistent use to build up NAD+ to therapeutic levels, then one can get by on regular maintenance doses.

[[Buddie]]

I thought I would come back here to add an article I found on this subject today.  Many people express relief from exercise during withdrawal. Others also tout the benefit of NAD+.  I tried it, it did make tapering manageable but I also don't have a comparable experience to say that the tapering would have been manageable without the NAD+. 

With that said, I came across this article today and wondering if those of us who are taking NAD treatments would have similar results from just exercising a lot?

I'm not trying to say one is better than the other, but if you were thinking of doing NAD to reduce your symptoms but don't have the money, maybe this article will help motivate you to get some free NAD+.
https://longevity.technology/news/regular-exercise-shown-to-keep-nad-levels-in-muscles-topped-up/

[[Buddie]]

I read similar things on I think reddit before. Not benzo related but a girl who said her lazy boyfriend took NAD+ and felt a lot better, more energized, slept better but then she also tried it and works out a lot and it didn't really do anything for her. I guess NAD+ is a good option to try when you can handle it but cannot handle workouts?

[[Buddie]]

I’m looking into it. Found a Dr in Chicago area that does nad + therapy. I’m going for a consultation. I’m always concerned about anything new in my body. I can’t handle any set backs. I’m on the fence. 10 months out still have symptoms and would love for them to be gone! $20k is a small price to pay for my health…..if it works?

[[Buddie]]

I’m looking into it. Found a Dr in Chicago area that does nad + therapy. I’m going for a consultation. I’m always concerned about anything new in my body. I can’t handle any set backs. I’m on the fence. 10 months out still have symptoms and would love for them to be gone! $20k is a small price to pay for my health…..if it works?

[...], I'm in the same area. Good for you for finding someone! Will the therapy be geared towards Benzo healing? I have an appointment with the Mayo Clinic in April. I read in this forum that they have doctors who are aware of benzo injuries so we'll see. I'm seven months out and still having some issues I'd call major. Please let us know how your Chicago NAD+ clinic appointment goes!

[[Buddie]]

I have an appointment with the Mayo Clinic in April. I read in this forum that they have doctors who are aware of benzo injuries so we'll see.

The website has a section on benzos and Ashton Method. Two BB members who had Mayo doctors, at the suggestion of their doctors, went on to have NAD+. One went to a clinic, the other went to a general infusion center near his home, and his Mayo doctor came out and did NAD+ infusions. I [...] all goes well with your appointment.