Tapper down Plan for Clonazepam - Seeking advise

[[Buddie]]

I'm really glad you're feeling better.  It sounds like 0.35 is working so maybe give it a bit more time? How long have you been on this dose?

We know it can be very traumatic when you first realise what is happening to you. It's difficult to grasp the impact and consequences. I remember I thought "surely it can't be that difficult to get off these pills^. I never imagined I would have to trust a bunch of strangers with weird usernames on the internet to safely guide my medical decisions.

I promise you though that it does get easier. I am so happy to read you're talking about acceptance. It might take a bit of time because the loss is great but the sooner you get to acceptance the easier it will be.  We will help you through everything. Just know you're not alone.

[[Buddie]]

[...],

Thanks for your encouragement and specially for your last words about that you will help me through everything and that I am not alone.

I am in 35 mg since the last two days. I have a feeling that my stabilizing dose is something in between 35 mg and 40 mgs. My tinnitus and sleep are guiding me. Specially my tinnitus, if gets too loud seems that my nervous system is under too much stress.

[[Buddie]]

You're welcome [...].

To be able to help you correctly, we just need to make sure we work on the same principles. Around here we don't count total usage as listed in your signature. We only work on the total daily dose. So I need to know what is the daily dose you are taking now please?

[[Buddie]]

Hello [...],

Thanks for your message.

I may confirm that 0.35 mgs of daily dose before sleep is working for me. I just woke up and I am feeling almost “normal”. There is a mild tinnitus at my back but is tolerable. I don´t pay much attention to it. Today is starting as a good day and I am grateful.

I am keeping a daily journal with the everyday doses and how I sleep, feel along with tinnitus loudness and hyperacusis sensitivity. It seems that 0.35 Mgs of Clonazepam daily before sleep  is the number in my case.

For what I understand I will stabilize here for a few days and then start the tapper.

[[Buddie]]

Hello [...],

Thanks for your message.

I may confirm that 0.35 mgs of daily dose before sleep is working for me. I just woke up and I am feeling almost “normal”. There is a mild tinnitus at my back but is tolerable. I don´t pay much attention to it. Today is starting as a good day and I am grateful.

I am keeping a daily journal with the everyday doses and how I sleep, feel along with tinnitus loudness and hyperacusis sensitivity. It seems that 0.35 Mgs of Clonazepam daily before sleep  is the number in my case.

For what I understand I will stabilize here for a few days and then start the tapper.


Hello again [...],

Thanks again for all your help.

I have decided to perform micro water tapering. I am an engineer so I am good in math’s.

To tapper down I have planned to do it in 4.5 months so 135 days. Every day I will dissolve 0.35 mg of Clonazepam in 135 ml of water and remove 1 ml per day. Is 135 days ok or should I think in 300 days and remove more than 1 ml per day ( 2 ml for example) If I am doing well? All your ideas are very welcomed.

Reading other posts, I could tell that you have plenty of experience. I found a in the site a link to videos in YouTube that explain the system. I am ordering a pipette, beakers, and a syringe. I already have the Jewelry Scale recommended in the site.

I have a few questions about the system:

1)   I must dissolve each milligram of Clonazepam in 1 ml of Vodka. Is that ok? Can I just dissolve the daily dose in water not using alcohol?

2)   Should I use distilled water?

3)   Any other tip? Am I right?


This is my first “good day” since October 27 when I found BB. I was taking Clonazepam every second day so my days without C. were very bad. Also I was shocked and frightened. Not anymore. I am slowly figuring all this out and I am getting ready to start my journey to healing.

A million thanks for your help.

[[Buddie]]

Hi [...]

I'll get back to you a bit later as I need to take time to write a proper detailed  reply. 

[[Buddie]]

I'm very happy to hear that you're doing better and it seems as if your system is settling down now. I suggest you hold here for at least two weeks before starting to taper. Clonazepam has a very long half life, so your body needs time to fully materialize the effect of the drug.

Just a couple of notes. Lots of people have used water to successfully titrate. There's nothing wrong with it. However, I need to follow due diligence and just mention that the most reliable way to titrate is to get your liquid compounded by a pharmacist. That is our go-to response. If that's not an option then DIY is the next option. The reason is, when we make our own homebrew stuff we create suspensions not solutions, meaning the drug does not fully dissolve in the liquid (in this instance water) and are not evenly dispensed throughout. I just need you to be aware of the limitations and risks.

So to answer your questions:

1) You can add Vodka or you can leave it out. If people use it, it's generally just to help the process along.
2) I'm not sure about this, but I'm doing liquid titration (not quite the same as you) and only use distilled water.
3) Once you've drank the mixture, you can add more water to the beaker/cup and swoosh it around to make sure you pick up any particles left behind.
Also sometimes when people switch to liquid they require an adjustment period. We generally recommend you don't make any reductions when you switch but keep your dose the same to see if you have a reaction to liquid. This could be a couple of days.

Now to get to your planned reductions. You are proposing linear reductions to get to your jumping dose. I am strongly opposed to linear reductions as it goes against our percentages and symptoms based tapers. Linear reductions mean your percentages keep increasing and it has an inherent risk of increased symptoms. I have been doing liquid titration since September last year and have only done percentages (unless you get to the very low numbers, then you have to switch to linear to get off). I have been fully functional and my symptoms have been under control the whole time. You say you are an engineer and good in maths, so that's great. If you can get a concentration of 0.1mg/ml that would be the easiest. I strongly suggest you stick to percentages to determine the size of your reductions.

Please let me know if you have more questions.

[[Buddie]]

Hello [...],

Thank you very much for your reply.

Just woke up and I am having my second “good day” in three weeks. I slept well (5 to 6 hours) and my tinnitus is very low. I have organized my life to have a minimum of stress, so that is helping me a lot. I am doing everything I can to promote my healing.

You are right, that method is liner and involves faster tapering in terms of % specially at the end. Thanks for showing me that.

I have been reading your posts. You have so much knowledge. I feel like you in your first posts when you started figuring all this out.

I have been trying to understand your method.

1)   From what I get you started with dry tapering, and you moved to liquid. Is that correct? I am in Mexico, I could buy standard liquid Clonazepam from a Pharmacy here. I already have a prescription for it.
2)   You are using DMT – (Daily Micro Tapering). Are you doing daily liquid micro tapering? Hoy much per day?
3)   Reading your signature, I am trying to understand your percentage cut and how you do it. For example

On October 15, 2021 you were on 0.374 mg ( How fast were you DMT?)
On December 6, 2021 you were on 0.314mg (That´s a 16% cut in almost two months, why did you decide to do that?)
On December 06, 2021 you were on 0.314 mg and three weeks lates you drop to 0.25 mg (That´s a 20% drop, how did you determined that number? Symptoms based?


If you have posted the description of your method before, could you please show me where it is? You have 2000 posts, I read many but couldn´t find it.

One more question, being on 0.35 mg, how long should take me to get off this drug safely? I know everybody is different and is impossible to give an accurate answer to that question, but I mean a conservative average timeframe. I am asking you because having a timeframe may help me to organize my life in the coming months to promote my detox and healing.

A million thanks for sharing your knowledge and helping me. I feel much better knowing that I am not alone in all this.

[[Buddie]]

Hello, [...].  Just popping in to let you know that we have multiple members (e.g. QuitRiviotril, BenThrottle, bonty, Salazar77( who have used/are using the 2.5mg/mL Rivotril liquid/drops  to taper clonazepam.  Some have been able to taper from it directly; others dilute it with water to make a liquid with a lower concentration (e.g.,, 0.1mg/mL or 0.01mg/mL); doing this allows them to make smaller reductions in dose.

[[Buddie]]

Hello [...],

I am reading the stories of the members you mention. Thanks for pointing me in that direction.

I have a prescription for Rivotril 2.5 mg/ml and I have access to more of it, so it might be the best way to go. And you are right, it can be diluted in case I want to tapper slower.

All this is new to me so I am still carefully reading all your comments.

A million thanks.