Ativan with Librium - where to go?

[[Buddie]]

I am totally lost with your situation and I feel so bad to say it.

My personal opinion is no benzo is easier to taper than another. Each one has it's own challenges. (Many people will probably differ from me on this). My gut is telling me since we don't know what is causing your symptoms, I would not introduce another benzo in the mix. So I would not cross over to K. If this doesn't work you're stuck on 3 and that could be really difficult to taper from. BUT, I might be completely wrong. I have very little experience with Ativan and have never helped anyone with Librium. I'm just sharing my thoughts with you and there's nothing to substantiate them.

I think you should trust your gut. I'm terribly sorry I cannot give you more and better advice.   

I'm so happy I stayed!
I don't know what has changed, but I started to feel better during my Librium dose.
Just need to find a rhythm now that works.

Thank you so much much for kind words and support 

[[Buddie]]

Tell me about your Librium capsules, are they 10 mg and how are you planning to incorporate them at low doses?

Sorry for not answering right away, been a rough stretch, but things got better during this past week and I got somewhat stable on A+L+A.

• I was also able to switch to all liquid Ativan
• Reduced my morning Ativan dose by 0.05 to 0.7
• Moved Ativan doses closes to each other: 8 am and 8 pm
• Found liquid librium. Could be as low as 1 mg = 1 ml. I ended up getting 2 mg = 1 ml for now. They use olive oil as preservative and it stays potent for a long time.

My current regimen is the following:

• Ativan 0.7 mg at 8 am
• 10 mg Librium at 1:30 pm
• 10 mg Librium at 3:00 pm
• 1 mg Ativan at 8 pm

I'm afraid to go back to all Ativan as I had major tachycardia on it and interdose withdrawal, so I want to try taper like this.

I've read that Ativan doses need to be dropped at the same time, is it true?
What's the best way to drop Librium?
Should I drop more % per interval? 7%? 10%
Should Librium be dropped separately from Ativan?
What to drop last?

I've made my taper journal, would appreciate it so much to hear your ideas and suggestions.
xls: https://we.tl/t-kNLa5ylITf



Thank you!!! 

Its good to see you again, I'm happy to hear you've stabilized and found a method that's working for you.

Your dosing schedule is entirely up to you, there are no rules, only what your body and lifestyle determine so keeping a good record of your symptoms and rating their severity will help you make educated reductions that will hopefully keep you functional.

As to what drug you should taper and when, this unfortunately requires you to experiment on yourself, because after all, this is what we're doing because we're on our own.  A slow steady reduction of the drug is what we hope for so if the combination you've found is working for you, I wonder if tapering the Ativan one time, then lowering the Librium the next might keep you on an even keel?

[[Buddie]]

What great news! I am so relieved you have seen improvement. 

[[Buddie]]

Hi I am jumping in on this bc this friend  is having a hard time still stuck between Librium and the Ativan. I offered to ask on here is it possible to stay on two and manage trying to taper maybe off some of the Librium since that seems to be where her major symptoms are AFTER taking? She is a slow metabolizer based on her gene test…. Could this be why she is feeling terrible after taking it?

The dilemma is not knowing how to get back to all Ativan and spending months doing that to not know if her body will ever then stabilize somewhat to then taper from Ativan.

Any experience where someone has had to stay on two bc they couldn’t get back to their original benzo?

Please anyone that’s seen other cases where people are on two chime in!!! She is overwhelmed not knowing how to proceed and that stress doesn’t help when you just need some guidance on a direction to go.

Thank y’all so so much!!!!!

[[Buddie]]

Hi I am jumping in on this bc this friend  is having a hard time still stuck between Librium and the Ativan. I offered to ask on here is it possible to stay on two and manage trying to taper maybe off some of the Librium since that seems to be where her major symptoms are AFTER taking? She is a slow metabolizer based on her gene test…. Could this be why she is feeling terrible after taking it?

The dilemma is not knowing how to get back to all Ativan and spending months doing that to not know if her body will ever then stabilize somewhat to then taper from Ativan.

Any experience where someone has had to stay on two bc they couldn’t get back to their original benzo?

Please anyone that’s seen other cases where people are on two chime in!!! She is overwhelmed not knowing how to proceed and that stress doesn’t help when you just need some guidance on a direction to go.

Thank y’all so so much!!!!!

Can you add more details, what are her doses?  It might be better to start a new thread to work this problem.