[Pu...] Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Hi all, I'm stuck at 2.87mg in my taper of Zopiclone. Interdose withdrawals are just too much and I need to cross over to Valium. Equivalent is about 2mg of Valium. But I have no idea how often to dose or how to make the transition. I'm really sensitive - even a 0.01mg cut of Zopiclone sent my interdose withdrawals into a tailspin. I could really use some help and some advice with this!!! How many doses? How slowly do I change over? Over what time period? Can I switch back if it's worse? How do I do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Pa...] Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Is your doctor willing to prescribe Valium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Pu...] Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 Yes - he is. I've had lots of people tell me not to do it, but the interdose withdrawals are just too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[sl...] Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 I wouldn't do it if I were you, it may not help and valium is apparently a nightmare to come off. I would hold at your present dose of zopiclone until you feel stable if I were you. Things will improve if you take it slow. It takes a long time to withdraw from v and you will still get withdrawal symptoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Pa...] Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 If you were taking another z-drug like Zolpidem I'd say it might be better to speed up your taper rather than slow it down or cross to Valium, for me, I didn't begin to heal until I'd stopped Zolpidem entirely, but I've seen too many who take Zopiclone suffer the same as those on benzodiazepines while tapering. I wish I had an answer for you but I doubt Valium is it. Having said this, Professor Ashton has provided this schedule which you can use as a guide, you're on a much smaller dose but you could still take a couple of weeks to crossover. https://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/bzsched.htm#s12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Pu...] Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 I wouldn't do it if I were you, it may not help and valium is apparently a nightmare to come off. I would hold at your present dose of zopiclone until you feel stable if I were you. Things will improve if you take it slow. It takes a long time to withdraw from v and you will still get withdrawal symptoms. I held for 6 months waiting to stabilise and never did and even small cuts (0.01mg) throw me into a tailspin. The short half life is the problem and I'm not coping (or functioning). Pug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Pu...] Posted August 21, 2022 Author Share Posted August 21, 2022 If you were taking another z-drug like Zolpidem I'd say it might be better to speed up your taper rather than slow it down or cross to Valium, for me, I didn't begin to heal until I'd stopped Zolpidem entirely, but I've seen too many who take Zopiclone suffer the same as those on benzodiazepines while tapering. I wish I had an answer for you but I doubt Valium is it. Having said this, Professor Ashton has provided this schedule which you can use as a guide, you're on a much smaller dose but you could still take a couple of weeks to crossover. https://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/bzsched.htm#s12 Thanks Pamster. There's no recommendation about splitting the dosage here - just once a day at night. Is that how most people take Valium, or do people split their doses? Pug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Pa...] Posted August 21, 2022 Share Posted August 21, 2022 Yes, most who take Valium will take it twice a day, but you may not need to if you're used to only taking the Zopiclone at night. If you find you do need to dose twice, you could maybe take a smaller dose in the morning to hopefully aid your sleep at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[sl...] Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Do what you have to, but I think you'll regret it in the long term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[fl...] Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 why not supplement with valerian root or preferably l-theanine/lemon balm ? i was able to cols turkey 15mg zopiclone with valerian root with little to no symptoms, but the 3rd day i felt like i was suddenly very close to a seizure with crazy symptoms acting all at once. since the zopiclone still helps you sleep, i would be more inclined to look into the least harmful supplements to help you during the day. i personally substituted to prazepam to avoid interdose withdrawals but added back some zopiclone afterwards because i got scared cold turkeying the zopiclone was going to damage my brain. prazepam is kind of weak, partial gaba agonist, but in your case maybe herbal thingies could work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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